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On 9/12/2024 at 8:16 AM, Rob Plant said:

Bad day for Trump!

Came up with all sorts of lies in the debate!

But his opponent also had trouble articulating any vision.

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Damage caused by Hurricane Helena has been wide spred across a few states. Whoever helps them drain the water quickly, provides free food, clean water and temporary shelter, give them money to reconstruct damaged houses, etc, would take down those states without sweat......IMG_20240928_200427.thumb.jpg.66aa086f10108208f15a867b52db3261.jpg

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11 hours ago, specinho said:

Damage caused by Hurricane Helena has been wide spred across a few states. Whoever helps them drain the water quickly, provides free food, clean water and temporary shelter, give them money to reconstruct damaged houses, etc, would take down those states without sweat......IMG_20240928_200427.thumb.jpg.66aa086f10108208f15a867b52db3261.jpg

Silly comic shows the USA as having the same number of workers as China.  They literally have a billion more people.  Any idea that you could outwork or put in more "sweat" than them is ridiculous.

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13 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

Silly comic shows the USA as having the same number of workers as China.  They literally have a billion more people.  Any idea that you could outwork or put in more "sweat" than them is ridiculous.

 

13 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

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You might have misunderstood...

- the one pointed by an arrow is the leader.

a) in the east, leadership style is the leader gives command, and the underlings get it done.

b) in the west, the leader works with the underlings to achieve an aim, or to overcome problems.

c) in the EU,  leadership is upside- down. The leader allows underlings to go overboard to lead or follow guidance in freestyle.

 

- no clear country leadership is happening throughout the world. They no longer know why they are there besides making lots of money unbeknown...

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the affects of Global warming caused by fossil fuel use......and think Florida...........the effect on the surface waters in the Gulf of Mexico and the spin off effects on Hurricanses.................Hurricanes love warm and warming waters

The temperature of the Gulf has increased 1 degree c on average in the past 50 years...........and Today....monster hurricanes

Pray for those in the path of the Hurricanes as the damage from climate change and global warming is getting worse and worse

 

 

The data show that the Gulf of Mexico sea surface temperature (SST) increased approximately 1.0°C (1.8°̊F) between 1970 and 2020, equivalent to a warming rate of approximately 0.19°C (0.34°F) per decade. The Gulf of Mexico warmed at twice the rate of warming in the global ocean near the sea surface.Feb 1, 2023
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7 hours ago, notsonice said:

the affects of Global warming caused by fossil fuel use......and think Florida...........the effect on the surface waters in the Gulf of Mexico and the spin off effects on Hurricanses.................Hurricanes love warm and warming waters

The temperature of the Gulf has increased 1 degree c on average in the past 50 years...........and Today....monster hurricanes

Pray for those in the path of the Hurricanes as the damage from climate change and global warming is getting worse and worse

 

 

The data show that the Gulf of Mexico sea surface temperature (SST) increased approximately 1.0°C (1.8°̊F) between 1970 and 2020, equivalent to a warming rate of approximately 0.19°C (0.34°F) per decade. The Gulf of Mexico warmed at twice the rate of warming in the global ocean near the sea surface.Feb 1, 2023

1'C increment over the sea can not beat more than 10'C increment on land. What irony is, those people on hotter temperature are all on bicycles, while cooler temperature has all families  driving a car... 'o' '-'

 

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16 hours ago, specinho said:

1'C increment over the sea can not beat more than 10'C increment on land. What irony is, those people on hotter temperature are all on bicycles, while cooler temperature has all families  driving a car... 'o' '-'

 

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what are you babbling about.....the topic was monster hurricanes 

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7 hours ago, notsonice said:

what are you babbling about.....the topic was monster hurricanes 

Did you know how huricane is formed?

I have seen small cyclones forming on land while living by the coast in the Tropical zone. 

Briefly, if you are interested to know, when cold front from the sea meets hot front of concrete on land, these 2 fronts intwined naturally to form cyclone. 

The strength of cyclone depends on temperature difference between those two fronts. The greater the difference, the larger the center, the higher the height and the faster the speed of the cyclone. Strong cyclone would be called hurricane in the west, typhoon in the east, cyclone along indian ocean etc.

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5 hours ago, specinho said:

Did you know how huricane is formed?

I have seen small cyclones forming on land while living by the coast in the Tropical zone. 

Briefly, if you are interested to know, when cold front from the sea meets hot front of concrete on land, these 2 fronts intwined naturally to form cyclone. 

The strength of cyclone depends on temperature difference between those two fronts. The greater the difference, the larger the center, the higher the height and the faster the speed of the cyclone. Strong cyclone would be called hurricane in the west, typhoon in the east, cyclone along indian ocean etc.

you are still babbling....stick to your flying cars might have existed in the 18th century

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15 hours ago, notsonice said:

you are still babbling....stick to your flying cars might have existed in the 18th century

This explanation from observation might have been better and clearer than many professional. Unfortunately, you still can not understand. 

Sometimes, we have to admit we are ignorant to understand things we do not. If you constantly keep a stance "you knew better", simple words would still be too much a hurdle for you to comprehend. 😉

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4 minutes ago, specinho said:

This explanation from observation might have been better and clearer than many professional. Unfortunately, you still can not understand. 

Sometimes, we have to admit we are ignorant to understand things we do not. If you constantly keep a stance "you knew better", simple words would still be too much a hurdle for you to comprehend. 😉

your AI english grammar sucks and you were  babbling about flying cars in the 18th century?????? Do you also believe in Unicorns?????

 

  and now you post more babble...Sometimes, we have to admit we are ignorant to understand things we do not...........guess you love to babble. Maybe you should give up on responses that are AI generated

 

the topic was Monster hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico and I posted the cause was global warming 

The data show that the Gulf of Mexico sea surface temperature (SST) increased approximately 1.0°C (1.8°̊F) between 1970 and 2020, equivalent to a warming rate of approximately 0.19°C (0.34°F) per decade. The Gulf of Mexico warmed at twice the rate of warming in the global ocean near the sea surface.Feb 1, 2023
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12 hours ago, notsonice said:

your AI english grammar sucks

I don't think he is using AI; AI would do much better.

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On 10/10/2024 at 11:42 AM, notsonice said:

your AI english grammar sucks and you were  babbling about flying cars in the 18th century?????? Do you also believe in Unicorns?????

 

  and now you post more babble...Sometimes, we have to admit we are ignorant to understand things we do not...........guess you love to babble. Maybe you should give up on responses that are AI generated

 

the topic was Monster hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico and I posted the cause was global warming 

The data show that the Gulf of Mexico sea surface temperature (SST) increased approximately 1.0°C (1.8°̊F) between 1970 and 2020, equivalent to a warming rate of approximately 0.19°C (0.34°F) per decade. The Gulf of Mexico warmed at twice the rate of warming in the global ocean near the sea surface.Feb 1, 2023

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More than 25 years ago, a fisherman asked a friend to investigate why fishery yield decreased much, instead of checking chemical signals from organic matter which of less usage.

More than 7 years ago, an academician suggested to ignore input from grass root public like fishermen, farmers, unemployed on climate change, because her research showed they do not know much. More than half out of 18 professional participants from SEA agreed.

This shows:

Fisherman noticed the impact 18 years ahead of them acknowledging the topic.

Executives who sit in air-con rooms, then air-con houses, of constant temperature, whole day, throughout the years, are the last to acknowledge or accept climate change. Most are proven more ignorant than known compared to those who work in/ exposed to the field.

Although on most topics researched, they might be correct. Not climate change.

@notsonice you are one of the executives, who do not know what you are talking about but arrogant enough to insist on it. 😉

Have you seen proofs of flying cars in the 18th century ( 1900s) posted as reply to @TailingsPond? No? You are probably too busy with your own opinion, rarely bother with input from others like those professional.

@TailingsPond AI certainly would do better. Thanks for pointing that out.

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2 hours ago, specinho said:

Have you seen proofs of flying cars in the 18th century ( 1900s) posted as reply to @TailingsPond? No? You are probably too busy with your own opinion, rarely bother with input from others like those professional.

Speccy you yet again spout off about flying cars in the 18th Century.

You seem to fail to understand that the 18th century was 1700-1799! It was not 1900-1999!! 

I'm pretty bloody sure there were NO flying cars or any cars for that matter in the 18th century as you claim. You will have seen some horse drawn carts but thats you lot mate, and no they werent flying either!

A primary school kid would know this!

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3 hours ago, specinho said:

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More than 25 years ago, a fisherman asked a friend to investigate why fishery yield decreased much, instead of checking chemical signals from organic matter which of less usage.

More than 7 years ago, an academician suggested to ignore input from grass root public like fishermen, farmers, unemployed on climate change, because her research showed they do not know much. More than half out of 18 professional participants from SEA agreed.

This shows:

Fisherman noticed the impact 18 years ahead of them acknowledging the topic.

Executives who sit in air-con rooms, then air-con houses, of constant temperature, whole day, throughout the years, are the last to acknowledge or accept climate change. Most are proven more ignorant than known compared to those who work in/ exposed to the field.

Although on most topics researched, they might be correct. Not climate change.

@notsonice you are one of the executives, who do not know what you are talking about but arrogant enough to insist on it. 😉

Have you seen proofs of flying cars in the 18th century ( 1900s) posted as reply to @TailingsPond? No? You are probably too busy with your own opinion, rarely bother with input from others like those professional.

@TailingsPond AI certainly would do better. Thanks for pointing that out.

In fairness Notsonice and TailingsPond are the main 2 protagonists for climate change and the damage to the environment caused by the use of FF on this site. Your little ditty above about the fisherman should be directed to Ecocharger and others on here, not directed to the 2 people who do understand it and constantly post about it.

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21 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Speccy you yet again spout off about flying cars in the 18th Century.

You seem to fail to understand that the 18th century was 1700-1799! It was not 1900-1999!! 

I'm pretty bloody sure there were NO flying cars or any cars for that matter in the 18th century as you claim. You will have seen some horse drawn carts but thats you lot mate, and no they werent flying either!

A primary school kid would know this

From another way, a century is 100 years. You can not count 1st year in the first 100 years as a century. It begins after year 100th.

Therefore, when old days mentioned 18th century, it actually refers to 1900s. Understand?

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5 minutes ago, specinho said:

From another way, a century is 100 years. You can not count 1st year in the first 100 years as a century. It begins after year 100th.

Therefore, when old days mentioned 18th century, it actually refers to 1900s. Understand?

You don't understand.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=what+years+are+the+18th+century

 

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14 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

Too much false info on internet since global warming has been a hot topic starting ~ 2015 or earlier. There are people who have made old informative, down to earth research, reliable publication not available. They change info into what they want you to believe. Confuse you with what they want you to believe using fluffy research of largely garbage in-garbage out but adjustable to suit the outcome desired or results people want to hear.

While googling for info, we still need to think independently if info provided is reliable and correct. We no longer able to accept blindly what is provided like before. 

Give my line "century started after year 100th" a thought, to consider its acceptability.

For my one cent worth of opinion, between knowledge founded/ used by pioneers/elders and info provided by newbies in modern world, I have a huge tendency to trust pioneers and elders. They did not have google or internet back then. All they had is time, passion for something intrigued them, patience to find out, courage to verify again and again before sharing. Old knowledge will hold the ground while modern one falters one after another.

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17 hours ago, specinho said:

From another way, a century is 100 years. You can not count 1st year in the first 100 years as a century. It begins after year 100th.

Therefore, when old days mentioned 18th century, it actually refers to 1900s. Understand?

Therefore, when old days mentioned 18th century, it actually refers to 1900s. Understand???........

no one is buying your BS that the 18th century occured in the 1900's nor your BS babble about flying cars in the 18th Century

 

You seem not to understand how centuries are reflected in actual time periods. This is something most people learn in the 7th grade. 

You lose all credibility when you are not capable of admitting you made a mistake or are wrong.....“to err is human, to forgive is divine”

You do realize we are in the 21st century???? from your definition of the 18th century occured in the 1900's........that would put us today in the 2200's. now take a look at a calender and the date. You tell us ........ today is in the year 2024 or 2224??????? 

now once again there were no flying cars in the 18th Century . The possibility of flying cars first appeared in the 20th century (hint ....man had to first achieve real powered flight before the possibilty of a flying car could happen (and we are not talking about wheels being attached to a hot air balloon) 

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Many prototypes have been built since the early 20th century, using a variety of flight technologies. Most have been designed to take off and land .

 

Here are the  definitions of the 18th, 20th, and 21st Century

 

18th century - Wikipedia

The 18th century lasted from 1 January 1701 (represented by the Roman numerals MDCCI) to 31 December 1800 (MDCCC). During the 18th century, elements of Enlightenment thinking culminated in the Atlantic Revolutions. Revolutions began to challenge the legitimacy of monarchical and aristocratic power structures.
 

 

 
 
 
 
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The 20th century began on 1 January 1901 (MCMI), and ended on 31 December 2000 (MM).
 

20th century - Wikipedia

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21st century

 
 
 
 
The 21st century is the current century in the Anno Domini or Common Era, in accordance with the Gregorian calendar. It began on 1 January 2001 and will end ...

 

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11 hours ago, notsonice said:

Therefore, when old days mentioned 18th century, it actually refers to 1900s. Understand???........

no one is buying your BS that the 18th century occured in the 1900's nor your BS babble about flying cars in the 18th Century

 

You seem not to understand how centuries are reflected in actual time periods. This is something most people learn in the 7th grade. 

You lose all credibility when you are not capable of admitting you made a mistake or are wrong.....“to err is human, to forgive is divine”

You do realize we are in the 21st century???? from your definition of the 18th century occured in the 1900's........that would put us today in the 2200's. now take a look at a calender and the date. You tell us ........ today is in the year 2024 or 2224??????? 

now once again there were no flying cars in the 18th Century . The possibility of flying cars first appeared in the 20th century (hint ....man had to first achieve real powered flight before the possibilty of a flying car could happen (and we are not talking about wheels being attached to a hot air balloon) 

image.jpeg.859ffe2f7b201bd24b8fd9953e9f043f.jpeg
Many prototypes have been built since the early 20th century, using a variety of flight technologies. Most have been designed to take off and land .

 

Here are the  definitions of the 18th, 20th, and 21st Century

 

18th century - Wikipedia

The 18th century lasted from 1 January 1701 (represented by the Roman numerals MDCCI) to 31 December 1800 (MDCCC). During the 18th century, elements of Enlightenment thinking culminated in the Atlantic Revolutions. Revolutions began to challenge the legitimacy of monarchical and aristocratic power structures.
 

 

 
 
 
 
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The 20th century began on 1 January 1901 (MCMI), and ended on 31 December 2000 (MM).
 

20th century - Wikipedia

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21st century

 
 
 
 
The 21st century is the current century in the Anno Domini or Common Era, in accordance with the Gregorian calendar. It began on 1 January 2001 and will end ...

 

Have to admit I was wrong.

I typed google search: flying cars 18th century. It showed those invention in 1900s. 

Pardon me forgetting to double check. 🙂

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On 10/12/2024 at 6:37 AM, specinho said:

From another way, a century is 100 years. You can not count 1st year in the first 100 years as a century. It begins after year 100th.

Therefore, when old days mentioned 18th century, it actually refers to 1900s. Understand?

Oh dear God!

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On 10/12/2024 at 9:44 PM, specinho said:

Have to admit I was wrong.

Good for you.

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21 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

Good for you.

Not an issue.

Accidentally brought out another important issue:

" Internet is no longer trustworthy like before since 2015 or earlier. Down to earth, informative, old research were made unavailable. Instead, info on what they want you to believe are putting up. We can no longer receive info blindly but need independent thinking to know if it is true or false....."

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