footeab@yahoo.com + 2,196 January 27 15 hours ago, notsonice said: but the USA does not need Canadian oil currently.?????? only a dope such as yourself believes what you babble reality....All refineries are configured to process very specific types of oils..... So, you haven't got a damned clue how a refinery works. [Not surprised] If you put in light sweet to a heavy crude refinery does it go through? Yup. Goes through just fine producing gasoline/diesel. Numb brain, its called economics of the spread. Refineries buy heavy crude as it is CHEAPER than light sweet. Buy low sell high. Likewise a refinery who can ONLY refine light sweet will be put at a disadvantage to a heavy sour capable refinery who can do both and obtain a LOWER input cost. Import rock bottom cheap sludge from Canada and export refined EXPENSIVE products to the world making BILLIONS Use your brain for something more than hitting nails eh? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM January 27 7 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: So, you haven't got a damned clue how a refinery works. [Not surprised] If you put in light sweet to a heavy crude refinery does it go through? Yup. Goes through just fine producing gasoline/diesel. Numb brain, its called economics of the spread. Refineries buy heavy crude as it is CHEAPER than light sweet. Buy low sell high. Likewise a refinery who can ONLY refine light sweet will be put at a disadvantage to a heavy sour capable refinery who can do both and obtain a LOWER input cost. Import rock bottom cheap sludge from Canada and export refined EXPENSIVE products to the world making BILLIONS Use your brain for something more than hitting nails eh? If you put in light sweet to a heavy crude refinery does it go through? Yup. Goes through just fine producing gasoline/diesel.????? you are a f...ing idiot If a refinery is configured for heavy crude it cannot switch to light crude without major modifications...... and configuration is not a matter of just opening and closing a few valves....... refineries buy Crude that they can process ..........they do not buy what they cannot process This is why the US exports 4 million barrells of light crude daily and imports 4 million barrels of heavy crude daily You actually are with a lower IQ than Trumps 85......stick to scrubbing toilets 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 494 January 28 (edited) 9 hours ago, notsonice said: If you put in light sweet to a heavy crude refinery does it go through? Yup. Goes through just fine producing gasoline/diesel.????? you are a f...ing idiot If a refinery is configured for heavy crude it cannot switch to light crude without major modifications...... and configuration is not a matter of just opening and closing a few valves....... refineries buy Crude that they can process ..........they do not buy what they cannot process This is why the US exports 4 million barrells of light crude daily and imports 4 million barrels of heavy crude daily You actually are with a lower IQ than Trumps 85......stick to scrubbing toilets When was the last time you use a dictionary?? '-' Is there a chance you have not understood the meaning of word used or mixed up the definition, like human usually do? 1. Crude = natural form - in a natural form, you do have the ability to get anything from petrol to sludge or bitumen. 2. Sludge or bitumen - the bottom layer of refinery. Something people would throw out, if it is not used for road? Met an engineer who boasted how much experience he has handling this project and those, and how knowledgeable he is on pump storage. The tentative project was using seawater. Discussion was ignited. A jobless kid was trying to suggest a more sustainable solution. He said pump storage using fresh water is well established. They only need to modify here and there to fit sea water in. The suggested solution he is not familiar. He wonder if the kid could draw him a draft. The kid showed him this: And said:" you are not familiar probably because it is new idea, not a copy mode or modified version. You do not need to do extensive research and modification; have years of discussion to find out the last working model has been decommissioned......." You and this engineer have similarity. You believe you have been there, done that, challenged others if they can outsmart you. But you do not know there are some people could use just common sense and send your degree + experience back to stone age. Try to reply properly without irrelevant personal attack. You are probably not the only rich kid in here. Edited January 28 by specinho 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM January 28 1 hour ago, specinho said: When was the last time you use a dictionary?? '-' Is there a chance you have not understood the meaning of word used or mixed up the definition, like human usually do? 1. Crude = natural form - in a natural form, you do have the ability to get anything from petrol to sludge or bitumen. 2. Sludge or bitumen - the bottom layer of refinery. Something people would throw out, if it is not used for road? Met an engineer who boasted how much experience he has handling this project and those, and how knowledgeable he is on pump storage. The tentative project was using seawater. Discussion was ignited. A jobless kid was trying to suggest a more sustainable solution. He said pump storage using fresh water is well established. They only need to modify here and there to fit sea water in. The suggested solution he is not familiar. He wonder if the kid could draw him a draft. The kid showed him this: And said:" you are not familiar probably because it is new idea, not a copy mode or modified version. You do not need to do extensive research and modification; have years of discussion to find out the last working model has been decommissioned......." You and this engineer have similarity. You believe you have been there, done that, challenged others if they can outsmart you. But you do not know there are some people could use just common sense and send your degree + experience back to stone age. Try to reply properly without irrelevant personal attack. You are probably not the only rich kid in here. buzz off ....... you added nothing to the discussion, as usual and once again , you are babbling BS about nothing to do with the topic at hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,196 January 28 14 hours ago, notsonice said: If you put in light sweet to a heavy crude refinery does it go through? Yup. Goes through just fine producing gasoline/diesel.????? you are a f...ing idiot If a refinery is configured for heavy crude Why is a complete oil ignorant on this forum again? I know you are arrogant ignorance personified, but here ya go: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/refining-crude-oil-the-refining-process.php Yes, sweet oil goes through WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATIONS. After all, sweet crude is by and large just Heavy crude without the contaminants. Go suck your thumb. Maybe a book will hit you upside the head and you might learn to read Why is a complete oil ignorant on this forum again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,029 GE January 28 4 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Why is a complete oil ignorant on this forum again? I know you are arrogant ignorance personified, but here ya go: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/refining-crude-oil-the-refining-process.php Yes, sweet oil goes through WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATIONS. After all, sweet crude is by and large just Heavy crude without the contaminants. Go suck your thumb. Maybe a book will hit you upside the head and you might learn to read Why is a complete oil ignorant on this forum again? It is easy to crack a heavy oil into a lighter oil. It is much more difficult to make a heavy oil from a lighter oil. He is not wrong, the refineries do want to blend heavier oil with light sweet so they get some heavy fractions out. Heavy crude is not just "contaminated" light crude. FYI the forum is about oil prices - it is right in the name. You do not need to know anything about oil to care about the financial impact of the oil market. Do not be so ignorant about the purpose of the forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM January 28 (edited) 10 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Why is a complete oil ignorant on this forum again? I know you are arrogant ignorance personified, but here ya go: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/refining-crude-oil-the-refining-process.php Yes, sweet oil goes through WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATIONS. After all, sweet crude is by and large just Heavy crude without the contaminants. Go suck your thumb. Maybe a book will hit you upside the head and you might learn to read Why is a complete oil ignorant on this forum again? still babbling BS i see........... After all, sweet crude is by and large just Heavy crude without the contaminants. ???????? you are a world class idiot..... and you work at a refinery?????? if not where do you work at?????? please share it with us where you gain such wisdom, After all you stated, sweet crude is by and large just Heavy crude without the contaminants.....Truly you are a world class idiot. Go suck your thumb?????? dude you are just a babbling idiot. Why are you on this forum again? here are the basics ,,,, and please note that there is no mention of contaminants whatsover Heavy crude contains the right hydrocarbons (the ones that sell with high profit margins) that you could never refine out of light crude. Most refineries refine heavy crude as this is where the money is at. Producing Gasoline is not a profit center for refineries in the US. Heavy crude is the name of the game and you cannot crake heavys out of lights. here is a starter https://www.afpm.org/newsroom/blog/whats-difference-between-heavy-and-light-crude-oils-and-why-do-american-refineries#:~:text=Heavier crude is now an,and higher costs for consumers. What's the difference between heavy and light crude oils? Heavier crude is now an essential feedstock for many U.S. refineries. Substituting it for U.S. light sweet crude oil would make these facilities less efficient and competitive, leading to a decline in fuel production and higher costs for consumers.4 days ago Refineries run on a mix of crude oils in order to run efficiently and maximize outputs. More than 70% of U.S. refining capacity runs most efficiently with heavier crude. That is why 90% of crude oil imports into the United States are heavier than U.S.-produced shale crude. The primary chemical difference between light crude and heavy crude oil is the composition of hydrocarbon molecules, with light crude containing a higher proportion of smaller, lighter hydrocarbon chains (like methane and ethane) which results in a lower density and viscosity, while heavy crude contains a higher proportion of larger, heavier hydrocarbon chains (like asphaltenes) leading to a higher density and viscosity; essentially, light crude has a higher proportion of "lighter" molecules compared to heavy crude which has more "heavy" molecules. Edited January 28 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,029 GE January 29 17 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Why is a complete oil ignorant on this forum again? OilPrice.com agrees heavy fraction imports are needed. USA will pay the tariffs. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/The-Dust-Has-Not-Settled-on-Trumps-Canadian-Oil-Threat.html "oil buyers in the Midwest will almost certainly pay the price of the tariffs thanks to the limited substitutability of Canadian crude with other oils resulting in strong pass-through to retail prices." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,029 GE January 29 7 hours ago, notsonice said: Heavy crude contains the right hydrocarbons (the ones that sell with high profit margins) that you could never refine out of light crude. Most refineries refine heavy crude as this is where the money is at. Producing Gasoline is not a profit center for refineries in the US. Heavy crude is the name of the game and you cannot crack heavies out of lights. Just to be pedantic you can make heavy fractions from light crude - it is just unprofitable. You dehydrogenate the short chain alkanes to alkenes; polymerize the alkenes into very long-chain alkanes, and then put that product back into your feedstock to heavy it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,196 January 30 On 1/28/2025 at 11:58 AM, notsonice said: still babbling BS i see........... After all, sweet crude is by and large just Heavy crude without the contaminants. ???????? you are a world class idiot..... and you work at a refinery?????? if not where do you work at?????? please share it with us where you gain such wisdom, After all you stated, sweet crude is by and large just Heavy crude without the contaminants.....Truly you are a world class idiot. Go suck your thumb?????? dude you are just a babbling idiot. Why are you on this forum again? here are the basics ,,,, and please note that there is no mention of contaminants whatsover Heavy crude contains the right hydrocarbons (the ones that sell with high profit margins) that you could never refine out of light crude. Most refineries refine heavy crude as this is where the money is at. Producing Gasoline is not a profit center for refineries in the US. Heavy crude is the name of the game and you cannot crake heavys out of lights. here is a starter https://www.afpm.org/newsroom/blog/whats-difference-between-heavy-and-light-crude-oils-and-why-do-american-refineries#:~:text=Heavier crude is now an,and higher costs for consumers. What's the difference between heavy and light crude oils? Heavier crude is now an essential feedstock for many U.S. refineries. Substituting it for U.S. light sweet crude oil would make these facilities less efficient and competitive, leading to a decline in fuel production and higher costs for consumers.4 days ago Refineries run on a mix of crude oils in order to run efficiently and maximize outputs. More than 70% of U.S. refining capacity runs most efficiently with heavier crude. That is why 90% of crude oil imports into the United States are heavier than U.S.-produced shale crude. The primary chemical difference between light crude and heavy crude oil is the composition of hydrocarbon molecules, with light crude containing a higher proportion of smaller, lighter hydrocarbon chains (like methane and ethane) which results in a lower density and viscosity, while heavy crude contains a higher proportion of larger, heavier hydrocarbon chains (like asphaltenes) leading to a higher density and viscosity; essentially, light crude has a higher proportion of "lighter" molecules compared to heavy crude which has more "heavy" molecules. So, in short you just said what I said was correct. GENIUS!!! Of course what AFPM means by EFFICIENT = cheaper feed stock, not efficiency in the feed stock. All they care about is the SPREAD. Costs in MINUS costs out = efficiency for a refiner. WAKE UP Same reason everyone is converting to NG for plastics and lubricating oils. In case this is too difficult for your wee little brain to contemplate, that is supposedly the benefit of Heavy Crude(as it has slightly more, by volume per barrel, longer chain HC's than light sweet)even though NG is MUCH MUCH MUCH lighter than Light Sweet Crude and has to be upcracked. Its about ECONOMICS, NOT perfect thermal efficiency JUST AS I have REPEATEDLY typed. According to your brain rot drain logic, Bitumen tar is even BETTER than Heavy Crude... Honestly: Can't fix stupid. WAKE UP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,029 GE January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Same reason everyone is converting to NG for plastics and lubricating oils. In case this is too difficult for your wee little brain to contemplate, that is supposedly the benefit of Heavy Crude(as it has slightly more, by volume per barrel, longer chain HC's than light sweet)even though NG is MUCH MUCH MUCH lighter than Light Sweet Crude and has to be upcracked. Its about ECONOMICS, NOT perfect thermal efficiency JUST AS I have REPEATEDLY typed. According to your brain rot drain logic, Bitumen tar is even BETTER than Heavy Crude... Not "everyone" is making lubricating oils out of nat gas. The ultra-premium synthetic lubes are made from nat gas but it is very, very expensive - about twice the price of normal lube. Bitumen tar is better than light stuff crude depending on what you want to make. Imagine you want to make... roofing tar ? Or asphalt for roads? Try making that from natural gas. Edited January 30 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM January 30 (edited) 6 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: So, in short you just said what I said was correct. GENIUS!!! Of course what AFPM means by EFFICIENT = cheaper feed stock, not efficiency in the feed stock. All they care about is the SPREAD. Costs in MINUS costs out = efficiency for a refiner. WAKE UP Same reason everyone is converting to NG for plastics and lubricating oils. In case this is too difficult for your wee little brain to contemplate, that is supposedly the benefit of Heavy Crude(as it has slightly more, by volume per barrel, longer chain HC's than light sweet)even though NG is MUCH MUCH MUCH lighter than Light Sweet Crude and has to be upcracked. Its about ECONOMICS, NOT perfect thermal efficiency JUST AS I have REPEATEDLY typed. According to your brain rot drain logic, Bitumen tar is even BETTER than Heavy Crude... Honestly: Can't fix stupid. WAKE UP hey Tard...are you talking about Fischer-Tropsch ????? I did not know that anyone is using this on a mass scale anywhere in the US....... can you tell me who has ditched Heavy crude as a feedstock and is now using Fischer-Tropsch to convert ng to oil???????????? any refineries switching to NG instead of heavy crude???? from your claims they must be making a fortune by switching....ha ha ha guess you could reform NG into oil....but why would anyone do it....it costs a fortune and no one will pay a fortune for products they can buy from refineries that process heavy crudes NG into gasoline??? ha ha ha NG into motor oil ??????? ha ha ha NG into grease???? ha ha ha NG into jet Fuel???? ???? ha ha ha NG into Diesel????? ha ha ha..... nope no one turning NG into products that you can get out of refining heavy crude..... Same reason everyone is converting to NG for plastics and lubricating oils. ????? god you are braindead .....quit using drugs What refinery in the US thats main feedstock ....Heavy crude ...has switched to light crude???? none and now you are babbling about everyone is converting to NG for plastics and lubricating oils??? lets discuss lubricating oils as the discussion was all about oil please tell us who is everyone....Please tell us the name of one refinery that is ditching heavy crude and switching to ng for lubricating oils????. Please post one ........ You are an Idiot ..... yes you can not fix stupid and you are the King of Stupid you still claiming the difference between light and heavy crude is the contaiminants????? ha ha ha .... oh my that one is priceless...........God you are a the worlds biggest fool ....please keep up with your claims.... I get to roll on the floor laughing at you again and again and again I asked you before ...who do you work for???? let me guess you scrub toilets Edited January 30 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,029 GE January 30 1 hour ago, notsonice said: NG into motor oil ??????? ha ha ha That is a thing, it is just way more expensive. https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pennzoil-ultra-platinum-5w30-synthetic-engine-motor-oil-5-l-0289360p.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,029 GE January 30 I want some of these Trump morons to eat some of their "clean coal." You can make food from coal. Hitler did it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine#Coal_butter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM January 30 1 hour ago, TailingsPond said: That is a thing, it is just way more expensive. https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/pennzoil-ultra-platinum-5w30-synthetic-engine-motor-oil-5-l-0289360p.html he stated .....everyone is converting to NG for plastics and lubricating oils....... everyone????? nope now where are they producing these???? just offtakes off of the NG liquids that are produced in Nat gas cleaning now are all the Heavy Oil refiners switching over to nat gas as their main feedstock?????? ha ha ha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM February 3 just another day in Paradise Eggs are approaching $1 each Under Trumps leadership........will he tell us he is lowering food costs tommorow??????? ha ha ha and your 401K .......guess his tarriffs are working....ha ha ha....recession is in the cards.............. CNBC Dow futures drop more than 450 points after Trump hits U.S. trading partners with tariffs: Live updates Stock futures tumbled Sunday night to kick off a new trading month as investors weighed new U.S. tariffs on goods from key trade partners. . 5 hours ago Yahoo Finance Stock market today: Dow, S&P 500, Nasdaq futures plummet after Trump hits Canada, Mexico, China with tariffs US stock futures pointed to sharp losses for the major indexes, as Wall Street showed the effects of President Donald Trump's announcement... . 5 hours ago WSJ Stock Market News: Tariffs Spark Steep Declines in Stock Futures Last Updated: Feb. 2, 2025 at 10:54 PM EST. Global markets are swooning in response to the Trump administration's move to levy tariffs on goods from Mexico... . 1 hour ago Investor's Business Daily Dow Jones Futures Dive As Trump Hikes Tariffs; Amazon, Google, Palantir Earnings Due Dow Jones futures: President Trump has OK'd tariffs vs. Canada, Mexico and China, with more coming. Amazon, Google and Palantir earnings... . 2 hours ago CNN Stock futures slide after Trump imposes tariffs US stock market futures were tending down Sunday, one day after President Donald Trump announced 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico and 10%... . 5 hours ago Barron's Dow Futures Plunge As U.S. Trade War Erupts Stock futures were plunging on Sunday evening as investors braced for global market volatility after the U.S. triggered a trade war between its closest... . 9 hours ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,029 GE February 6 As expected Trump tariffs plan failed. He capitulated before a single tariff was paid. "Drill, baby drill" was total garbage. No USA company will drill new wells with low oil prices Trump is on record of supporting OPEC production increases. Forget the days of artificial scarcity bumping oil prices. "Soaring" oil prices. If you do not want to look stupid don't upvote the morons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM February 6 (edited) Trump A coal miners friend????? With Friends like Trump who needs enemies..... Trump once again has proven he is a moron........China will ditch any coal or LNG imports from the US...thanks to his Tariff strategy now who is the winner in the war????? ask your local coal miner .......who just got the pink slip..expect US Coal exports to crater in 2025 and take down the US total coal production to under 450 Million tons in 2025 from 512 million tons in 2024. China in 2024 imported 11 million tonnes of Met coal from the US ......now with the tariffs it will head to zero Trump is all aboard on the Green Agenda.............No legislation needed just let him executive order Tariffs willy nilly and he will send the US into a recession Newsflash US Nat gas futures also got creamed in the last 3 days Trump is sending the US into a recession and fast........... Axios China imposes 15% tariffs on U.S. coal and LNG as trade war with Trump heats up China's government announced tariffs on U.S. imports including coal and liquefied natural gas in retaliation for Trump administration... . 1 day ago Coal Producers Worry About China's Tariff In Response To ... West Virginia Public Broadcasting https://wvpublic.org 1 day ago — The United States exports relatively little coal to China – 11.6 million tons of it in 2024, a fraction of what China imports overall. China tariff retaliation targets its modest US energy imports Reuters https://www.reuters.com 1 day ago — Chinese imports of U.S. crude oil declined 52% to about 230,540 barrels per day (bpd) in the first 11 months of 2024 from the same period a year ... China counters with tariffs on US products. It will also ... AP News https://apnews.com 1 day ago — China said it would implement a 15% tariff on coal and liquefied natural gas products as well as a 10% tariff on crude oil, agricultural ... What tariffs are China imposing on the US Al Jazeera https://www.aljazeera.com 2 days ago — It imported an average of 230,540 barrels per day from the US in 2024, a 52 percent decline from the same period in 2023. China targets U.S. coal, gas, Google as Trump tariffs take ... NPR https://www.npr.org 2 days ago — Those include 15% tariffs on American coal and liquefied natural gas and 10% tariffs on crude oil, farm equipment and certain other vehicles. China slaps extra 15% tariffs on US coal, LNG, 10% ... S&P Global https://www.spglobal.com 2 days ago — China imports $163 bil in US goods in 2024. Beijing may hasten energy import diversification post-tariffs. China is set to impose an ... US met coal market mixed on China tariffs Argus Media https://www.argusmedia.com 11 hours ago — Starting on 10 February, a 15pc levy will be added to the pre-existing 3pc tax on US coking coal imports for a total 18pc. ... 2024, roughly 39pc ... China imposes 15% tariff on U.S. coal in response to ... Mysteel https://www.mysteel.net 1 day ago — China announced on February 4 that it will impose a 15% tariff on coal imported from the United States, effective February 10, ... Page Navigation Edited February 6 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,290 DM February 10 Trump sure is fast at one thing Driving the US into a recession............Hope the morons who voted for him enjoy the unemployment line CNN Jobs report shows a hiring slowdown as companies are acting like ‘they’re in a recession’ The US economy kicked off 2025 by adding 143000 jobs in January, fewer than expected; but the unemployment rate dipped to 4%, according to... . 3 days ago Barron's The Recession That Never Was Could Be Coming This Year Don your shimmering suit and kick up your heels, it's time to celebrate America's New Golden Age—or so says President Donald Trump. . 1 week ago NerdWallet Are We in a Recession? Though the economy occasionally sputtered in the wake of the pandemic, it has certainly been resilient — and now, in 2025, the U.S. is not... . 2 weeks ago Advisor Perspectives The Big Four Recession Indicators Official recession calls are the responsibility of the NBER Business Cycle Dating Committee, which is understandably vague about the... . 3 days ago tastylive The Global Economy Faces Recession Risk if U.S. PMI Data is Right PMI data says global economic growth hit a 12-month low in January and unexpected weakness in the United States may revive global recession... . 4 days ago US News Money Recession 2025: What to Watch and How to Prepare | Investing The index's January performance has historically been a strong predictor of performance for the remainder of the calendar year. The New York... . 1 month ago KITCO 2025 to kick off with a recession, 'ugly' U.S. jobs data coming – Danielle DiMartino Booth (Kitco News) - A recession is still coming as the U.S. economy faces a string of "ugly" job numbers in the coming months, according to... . 3 weeks ago BBC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin2 + 728 MK February 16 The problem for Europe is that after the latest Trump moves we think we were sold by US. US and Russia will decide the Ukraine future with a lot of territorial loses, at least 100,000 square km for Russia. Russia wins. I understand the unrlinings of these. Russia was threatened bu Ukrainian stance, ande attacked it was understandable. But at present the best future solution is for the Ukraine to be neutral, and have its territory back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Jeroen Goudswaard + 61 Tuesday at 10:26 AM On 2/16/2025 at 8:03 PM, Marcin2 said: The problem for Europe is that after the latest Trump moves we think we were sold by US. US and Russia will decide the Ukraine future with a lot of territorial loses, at least 100,000 square km for Russia. Russia wins. I understand the unrlinings of these. Russia was threatened bu Ukrainian stance, ande attacked it was understandable. But at present the best future solution is for the Ukraine to be neutral, and have its territory back. You will have to explain to me how this works. So if Putin and Trump agree on something, how is this going to be accepted by Ukraine? What is the leverage that they have on Zelensky? Trump has been crystal clear that he would not support Ukraine anymore - so what is in it for Zelensky to accept any kind of peace deal that he was not party in designing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,556 Wednesday at 03:28 AM (edited) On 1/26/2025 at 3:49 AM, footeab@yahoo.com said: . PS: No, birthright citizenship is NOT a foundation piece of the USA. In fact, the opposite. Since the parents are not under the "jurisdiction" of the USA" neither is the baby. Was already adjudicated regarding any diplomat's wife who gives birth while in USA, that NO, their child is NOT a citizen. Neither is anyone who flies in for a USA holiday. An undocumented alien in the USA is subject to jurisdiction. Here's a breakdown of why: 1. Presence within U.S. Borders: Physical Presence: The most fundamental basis for jurisdiction is physical presence within a country's borders. If an individual, regardless of their immigration status, is physically present within the United States, they are subject to its laws and the jurisdiction of its courts. Constitutional Rights: The U.S. Constitution, in particular the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, extends certain protections to all "persons" within its borders, not just citizens. This includes the right to due process, which means that even undocumented individuals have the right to a fair legal process. 2. Types of Jurisdiction: Criminal Jurisdiction: Undocumented aliens can be prosecuted for crimes they commit within the U.S., just like citizens. Civil Jurisdiction: They can also be involved in civil lawsuits (e.g., contracts, personal injury) and are subject to the decisions of civil courts. Immigration Jurisdiction: The federal government has specific jurisdiction over immigration matters. Undocumented aliens are subject to immigration laws and can be detained, deported, or otherwise dealt with according to those laws. 3. Limitations: Specific Rights: While undocumented aliens have some constitutional rights, they don't have all the same rights as citizens. For example, they can't vote. Enforcement: In practice, the extent to which undocumented aliens are subject to jurisdiction can depend on various factors, including the specific laws involved, the actions of law enforcement, and the availability of legal resources. Edited Wednesday at 03:29 AM by turbguy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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notsonice + 1,290 DM Thursday at 08:20 PM On 1/30/2025 at 3:00 PM, TailingsPond said: I want some of these Trump morons to eat some of their "clean coal." You can make food from coal. Hitler did it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine#Coal_butter I wonder who Musk takes his marching orders from these days...We all know who is Trumps master...or should I say we all know who is Putin's Bitch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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