Marcin2 + 725 MK February 16 How to collapse China ? First of all you should ensure that all university cooperation in US and EU with China is breaked. This is the first and very important step. China uses academic cooperation to steal technology and fuse it with military technology. There should be custom duties on ALL Chinese products, so that Apple and the like, move to other countries. It is the most important second step. Otherwise CEO of Apple will be simple Chinese servant as it is now. Move all supply chains out of China and towards South East Asia - this would be difficult, very difficult but it is possible. Cut all of the financial ties - prevent US (and EU and Asian friendly like JApan, SOuth Korean) companies to invest in Chinese companies. Change the patent law as to not honor ALL CHINESE PATENTS - it is possible but difficult, but US and EU still has enough power to do it. Try to actively move all supply chains out of China to South - East Asia and US. Very difficult but still possible. China would be on its own with a lot of unemployment and spare capacity - it is the only way. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff February 17 (edited) 5 hours ago, Marcin2 said: How to collapse China ? First of all you should ensure that all university cooperation in US and EU with China is breaked. This is the first and very important step. China uses academic cooperation to steal technology and fuse it with military technology. There should be custom duties on ALL Chinese products, so that Apple and the like, move to other countries. It is the most important second step. Otherwise CEO of Apple will be simple Chinese servant as it is now. Move all supply chains out of China and towards South East Asia - this would be difficult, very difficult but it is possible. Cut all of the financial ties - prevent US (and EU and Asian friendly like JApan, SOuth Korean) companies to invest in Chinese companies. Change the patent law as to not honor ALL CHINESE PATENTS - it is possible but difficult, but US and EU still has enough power to do it. Try to actively move all supply chains out of China to South - East Asia and US. Very difficult but still possible. China would be on its own with a lot of unemployment and spare capacity - it is the only way. In other words, enforce the old colonial structures. Apple tried to migrate to India; how did that go? The value-add by Apple in China is less than $1/phone. The total China exports to USA amounts to 0.6% of China GDP. The people with the greatest number of legal violations in China are the amurcuns. If amurcuns want to leave China, good riddance. Virtually everything in Walmart is imported from China. Eliminate this, and how many thousands of jobs lost? Tesla's largest facility, market, profits come from China. US exports to China are +$150bn/yr. I wonder how the people benefiting from those exports would react to your myopic views. besides, what has this to do with oil/gas per se? Edited February 17 by frankfurter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM February 20 (edited) On 2/16/2024 at 10:31 PM, frankfurter said: In other words, enforce the old colonial structures. Apple tried to migrate to India; how did that go? The value-add by Apple in China is less than $1/phone. The total China exports to USA amounts to 0.6% of China GDP. The people with the greatest number of legal violations in China are the amurcuns. If amurcuns want to leave China, good riddance. Virtually everything in Walmart is imported from China. Eliminate this, and how many thousands of jobs lost? Tesla's largest facility, market, profits come from China. US exports to China are +$150bn/yr. I wonder how the people benefiting from those exports would react to your myopic views. besides, what has this to do with oil/gas per se? The total China exports to USA amounts to 0.6% of China GDP????? and again you post no facts here is reality China exports to USA amounts to 3% of China GDP China Exports to United States was US$582.76 Billion during 2022 China GDP 2022, reaching an all time high of 17963.17 USD Billion in 2022 China's GDP in 2023US$17.52 trillion.... a real drop in US dollars Enjoy the fall of your currency Xinhua Chinese yuan weakens to 7.1068 against USD Tuesday 8 hours ago 2023 Imports from China to the US $427.2 billion love the numbers.... a drop of 160 billion $US in one year Enjoy the recession.......... PS if you are looking for work I hear Putin is looking for people .....No experience needed......just have to work in a trench Edited February 20 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 476 GE February 20 9 hours ago, notsonice said: 2023 Imports from China to the US $427.2 billion love the numbers.... a drop of 160 billion $US in one year Those numbers show Biden is doing a better job than Trump did during his trade war. I wonder if the cult zealots will notice (probably not). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 476 GE February 20 (edited) On 2/16/2024 at 4:58 PM, Marcin2 said: There should be custom duties on ALL Chinese products, so that Apple and the like, move to other countries. That would put huge financial pressure on the lowest earning Americans who can only afford Dollar General or Walmart crap. The US would have to become more socialist themselves and fund the poor and the industries hurt by the inevitable retaliation tariffs placed on US goods. Farmer's got big support payouts under Trump's failed trade war. Secondly, if the actually tarrifs work than means the USA will import less from China, this reduction in demand would depress the price of Chinese goods and other nations will take advantage of cheaper products. The only way it would work is with international agreement on Embargos. Good luck getting many other nations on board with that idea, China isn't doing anything terrible like Russia that would justify it. Edited February 21 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM February 20 everyone does better than Trump 1 hour ago, TailingsPond said: Those numbers show Biden is doing a better job than Trump did during his trade war. I wonder if the cult zealots will notice (probably not). The Guardian Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even 'historically calamitous chief executives' linked to civil war. . 29 mins ago People Historians Rank Donald Trump Worst U.S. President Again, with Biden in 14th Place Historians have again named Donald Trump as the worst president in U.S. history, placing him 45th out of all the former American presidents. . 4 hours ago The New York Times Poll Ranks Biden as 14th-Best President, With Trump Last President Biden may owe his place in the top third to his predecessor: Mr. Biden's signature accomplishment, according to the historians,... . 1 day ago The Independent Kayleigh McEnany reacts to Trump being named the worst president ever Former White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany has responded to a new poll that named Donald Trump as the worst president in US history... . 6 hours ago Axios Presidents Day survey: Trump ranked last by historians, Biden 14th Presidential historians in a new survey rank President Biden as the 14th best president in U.S. history — and put former President Trump... . 1 hour ago PinkNews Donald Trump ranked worst president in US history - again Donald Trump has been labelled the worst president after he placed dead last on a list of US leaders ranked by historians and scholars. . 8 hours ago upi Historians rank Trump worst president in history, Lincoln the best Feb. 19 (UPI) -- A new survey of historians ranks Donald Trump the worst president in U.S. history. Advertisement. Trump has touted his poll... . 1 day ago The Independent Trump ranks as worst president in US history in new academics poll Donald Trump isn't just the first current or former president in US history to ever face criminal charges. Now, he is making history in... . 13 hours ago 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 884 MP February 23 The most destructive person operating against Chinese interests is Xi Jinping. China is self-destructing on an unprecedented scale. Outsider attempts to speed it up may backfire. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 476 GE February 23 2 hours ago, Meredith Poor said: The most destructive person operating against Chinese interests is Xi Jinping. China is self-destructing on an unprecedented scale. Outsider attempts to speed it up may backfire. "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake" -Napoleon (some people say it is from the Art of war but that appears to be wrong). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 884 MP February 25 On 2/23/2024 at 3:52 PM, TailingsPond said: "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake" -Napoleon (some people say it is from the Art of war but that appears to be wrong). Even more so when they are making nothing but mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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