The Great Climate Change Swindle

The great climate change swindle

Don't rejoice yet, climate skeptics. It's all gloom and doom but I'm posting it because that's a perspective not often acknowledged in the MSM but one, which is close to me. While not poor I, too, use plastic bags multiple times. Another remnant of the totalitarian mentality when most things were in short supply. 

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I read this article and I believe this guy will be extremely disappointed when he finds out that CO2 emissions will be slashed by a substantial portion by 2030. At least he's honest and makes it clear that he wants to end capitalism.

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1 hour ago, Marina Schwarz said:

The great climate change swindle

Don't rejoice yet, climate skeptics. It's all gloom and doom but I'm posting it because that's a perspective not often acknowledged in the MSM but one, which is close to me. While not poor I, too, use plastic bags multiple times. Another remnant of the totalitarian mentality when most things were in short supply. 

This should be an amusing thread  : )

 

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32 minutes ago, JunoTen said:

I read this article and I believe this guy will be extremely disappointed when he finds out that CO2 emissions will be slashed by a substantial portion by 2030. At least he's honest and makes it clear that he wants to end capitalism.

Why would he be disappointed?

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3 minutes ago, Marina Schwarz said:

Why would he be disappointed?

Because he will realize first that he was dead wrong, second that the world doesn't need his ideology. 

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I'm not sure he's wrong about the costs of greener living hurting poorer people. I'm also not sure the world will manage to slash emissions substantially by 2030. They're already failing at this. But those of us who live long enough will see what happens in the end.

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2 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said:

I'm not sure he's wrong about the costs of greener living hurting poorer people. I'm also not sure the world will manage to slash emissions substantially by 2030. They're already failing at this. But those of us who live long enough will see what happens in the end.

I choose to be optimistic ! 

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5 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said:

The great climate change swindle

Don't rejoice yet, climate skeptics. It's all gloom and doom but I'm posting it because that's a perspective not often acknowledged in the MSM but one, which is close to me. While not poor I, too, use plastic bags multiple times. Another remnant of the totalitarian mentality when most things were in short supply. 

Pretty cool article, really.  I like his writing style and it is an interesting take.

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3 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said:

I'm not sure he's wrong about the costs of greener living hurting poorer people. I'm also not sure the world will manage to slash emissions substantially by 2030. They're already failing at this. But those of us who live long enough will see what happens in the end.

I think demons live forever!

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I am always amused by the quotations from the epistle of the Church of warming , a sect of the religion of Secular Socialism whose deity is government. When one considers that all religions are man made constructs that reenforce and then usurp an individual's spirituality for the enrichment and power of their clergy, then it becomes obvious that there isn't much difference between Al Gore and Joel Osteen.

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6 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said:

The great climate change swindle

Don't rejoice yet, climate skeptics. It's all gloom and doom but I'm posting it because that's a perspective not often acknowledged in the MSM but one, which is close to me. While not poor I, too, use plastic bags multiple times. Another remnant of the totalitarian mentality when most things were in short supply. 

The problem with climate change theory is that saying that just 0.01% increase in CO2 in atmosphere will rise temperature by 1celsius is absurd. Does this mean that if CO2 becomes 1% of atmosphere, temperature will go to 100 celsius? Climate change is a false flag meant to cover up the reality that oil reserves is depleting. It is just a hoax to get the same action - cut oil usage and hence prolong the reserves instead of directly telling people that "world is run on a Petroleum-Ponzi scheme and will collapse once oil runs out and hence reduce consumption".

6 hours ago, JunoTen said:

I read this article and I believe this guy will be extremely disappointed when he finds out that CO2 emissions will be slashed by a substantial portion by 2030. At least he's honest and makes it clear that he wants to end capitalism.

That is because petroleum will be depleted and hence unable to be consumed. It is like saying that your food requirement will go down drastically after your death.

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6 minutes ago, Bhimsen Pachawry said:

That is because petroleum will be depleted and hence unable to be consumed. It is like saying that your food requirement will go down drastically after your death.

No, I believe it's because oil demand will peak. It may peak as soon as 2021, but definitely before 2025. Not only that but also because renewables , will enter the take-off phase of exponential growth. I don't believe in an oilpocalypse.

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2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

I think demons live forever!

That's vampires. Repeat, that's vampires. Demons are pink and cute, and inspiring. And they die when fossil fuels run out. So sad.

I also think this guy has an interesting take on the topic. Like I said, almost nobody talks about the poor anymore and I take issue with that.

1 hour ago, Billyjack said:

I am always amused by the quotations from the epistle of the Church of warming , a sect of the religion of Secular Socialism whose deity is government. When one considers that all religions are man made constructs that reenforce and then usurp an individual's spirituality for the enrichment and power of their clergy, then it becomes obvious that there isn't much difference between Al Gore and Joel Osteen.

Oh, this is the best! Deliciously paradoxical and yet inarguable. Kudos for the term!

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1 hour ago, Bhimsen Pachawry said:

The problem with climate change theory is that saying that just 0.01% increase in CO2 in atmosphere will rise temperature by 1celsius is absurd. Does this mean that if CO2 becomes 1% of atmosphere, temperature will go to 100 celsius? Climate change is a false flag meant to cover up the reality that oil reserves is depleting. It is just a hoax to get the same action - cut oil usage and hence prolong the reserves instead of directly telling people that "world is run on a Petroleum-Ponzi scheme and will collapse once oil runs out and hence reduce consumption".

That is because petroleum will be depleted and hence unable to be consumed. It is like saying that your food requirement will go down drastically after your death.

Wow!  Now that's a different angle.  

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Where is the research on those 100 industries and who did the research?

Also, who funded that research is more important.

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4 hours ago, Billyjack said:

I am always amused by the quotations from the epistle of the Church of warming , a sect of the religion of Secular Socialism whose deity is government. When one considers that all religions are man made constructs that reenforce and then usurp an individual's spirituality for the enrichment and power of their clergy, then it becomes obvious that there isn't much difference between Al Gore and Joel Osteen.

I am always amused when poor logic masquerades as knowledge and then tosses in false equivalences to compound its errors.

 

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37 minutes ago, timhochschild said:

Where is the research on those 100 industries and who did the research?

Also, who funded that research is more important.

The research and, separately, its methodology are freely available - ever searched with google?

While who funded the research can be important, what is more important is the veracity of the information.  That said, it was funded by the global-leading organisation which partners with business and governments to develop sustainable economies by measuring and understanding their environmental impact.

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3 hours ago, J S said:

Why are all the climate change skeptics white males in the US?

But I live in Malaysia (it's next to Singapore, for any geography-phobes).

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6 hours ago, Bhimsen Pachawry said:

The problem with climate change theory is that saying that just 0.01% increase in CO2 in atmosphere will rise temperature by 1celsius is absurd. Does this mean that if CO2 becomes 1% of atmosphere, temperature will go to 100 celsius? Climate change is a false flag meant to cover up the reality that oil reserves is depleting. It is just a hoax to get the same action - cut oil usage and hence prolong the reserves instead of directly telling people that "world is run on a Petroleum-Ponzi scheme and will collapse once oil runs out and hence reduce consumption".

That is because petroleum will be depleted and hence unable to be consumed. It is like saying that your food requirement will go down drastically after your death.

There is an abundance of oil supply right now and we are not going to be running out of Oil for at least the next 300 years. There is plenty of oil around the around and with improving technology - we are able to achieve much higher recovery rates and geological formations which were not accessible before. So, I am going to have a disagree with your theory regarding a "false flag" narrative. Haha! Good try though. 

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Interesting comment in the article

And not only that, but fossil fuels enjoy some serious subsidies. An IMF paper in 2015 estimated that these subsidies amounted to US$4.9 trillion - just a casual 6.5 per cent of global GDP.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, J S said:

Well where were you born?  Plus you are an outlier since you have hair, unless you are wearing a wig?  Are you a Malaysian American bald headed wig wearing cat liker?  I think yes.  

Bwahahahahahahahaha.

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I'm just gonna sit over here revelling in evilness, thoroughly enjoying being a bald headed wig wearing cat lover.

 

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7 hours ago, Bhimsen Pachawry said:

The problem with climate change theory is that saying that just 0.01% increase in CO2 in atmosphere will rise temperature by 1celsius is absurd. Does this mean that if CO2 becomes 1% of atmosphere, temperature will go to 100 celsius? Climate change is a false flag meant to cover up the reality that oil reserves is depleting. It is just a hoax to get the same action - cut oil usage and hence prolong the reserves instead of directly telling people that "world is run on a Petroleum-Ponzi scheme and will collapse once oil runs out and hence reduce consumption".

That is because petroleum will be depleted and hence unable to be consumed. It is like saying that your food requirement will go down drastically after your death.

Errr No. However it a reasonable question for anyone to ask

I believe the effect is approximately a 2 degree increase for every doubling of Co2 concentration. On that basis raising Co2 to 10,000ppm would give rise to a 9 degree celsius rise +/- negative / positive feedbacks. 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Marina Schwarz said:

I'm not sure he's wrong about the costs of greener living hurting poorer people. I'm also not sure the world will manage to slash emissions substantially by 2030. They're already failing at this. But those of us who live long enough will see what happens in the end.

Those who live long enough will find out that natural gas was the best option for reducing pollution and maintaining material progress in the world. They will also see that advances in solar, wind, and other technologies have helped reduce pollution and helped Third World populations by providing diversified power supplies. 

I think that poor people are capable of figuring out how to carry groceries in cloth bags, but I prefer Aldi's heavy plastic bags that are reusable and cost ten cents each. I hate to see a cheap plastic bag as litter especially when it is stuck in a bush or tree. 

They will also laugh at the global warming mania, the climate change mania, and realize that climate has always changed and always will. Much of our dry land was once under water. 

Global Warming AKA Climate Change  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B7YYeQTmESPhjlS_dj4zMTxWOiJhmLjxN1I_1NJcJFY/edit?usp=drive_web&ouid=115021267467773684978

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The bag thing was just an example, I think. Here's another: renewable electricity is costlier than the juice from gas-fired plants, at least down here, and utilities are raising their rates because of this. Higher bills hit everyone but the poorer you are, the harder the blow. 

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19 hours ago, J S said:

Why are all the climate change skeptics white males in the US?

Why is there a disproportionate number of white cops that shave their heads in the US?

Why are most of the crazy anti-abortionists in the US white guys?

Why are the crazy white nationalists white guys?

Trump is allowing Russia to put chemicals in our water that only affects white guys!

How many of the Climate change skeptics on this site have bald heads?

Don't drink the water, drink Hamm's the beer refreshing and grow hair.

 

We really need to expose the horrors put on the world by white males. Things like antibiotics, ac electricity, the cotton gin, telephones, television, air travel, automobiles, computers, the printing press, polio vaccine, trains, space travel, calculus ... ultimately all the travesties created by Western Civilisation.   

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