Turkey Can't Become An EU Member, Says EPP's Weber

Turkey cannot become a member of the European Union, said Manfred Weber, the European Peoples Party’s (EPP) lead candidate for the upcoming European elections, adding that he would end accession talks if he becomes European Commission president. Turkey says EU membership remains one of its top strategic goals even though accession talks, formally launched in 2004, have been stalled for years.Weber, the center-right EPP candidate to be EU Commission President after European Parliament elections in May, told German conservatives in Bavaria “everyone wants good relations with Turkey, everyone wants to work closely together”.  “But if I become Commission president, then I will instruct the offices in Brussels to end the talks with Turkey on accession to the European Union,” he said to rapturous applause.

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I don’t like Erdogan, and actual regime in Turkey. But, you can't have double standards: NATO is OK, EU is not? It is not a good message, especially when we hear it from someone who belongs to the right wing in Germany ... Hitler was right wing and we know result...

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Yep. Erdogan is not Turkey. To be clear, Erdogan has taken many steps that he knew would ensure that Turkey could not be considered for membership. I'm not sure he wants EU membership. But Erdogan, or this young nationalist, can't make decision in the name of one country, or Union..

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With France in flames, Italy in recession, Germany on the brink and in the hands of ghosts from the past, Greece in austerity, migration crisis unabating, EU military formation, Poland and Hungary sanctioned, Turkey is not top of the iceberg...

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The EU parliament will vote this month whether to continue accession talks with Turkey. If they vote not to, Turkey will respond by flooding EU with the migrants it is being paid by EU to hold.

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One view point engineered. I suppose, Erdogan and Putin will be happy with this attitude..

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Sure you can the world's full of them. Turkey came running like a dog to NATO i.e. the US because they didn't want to be carved up by Soviet Union. Their main contribution to NATO was geography. It's a new world. Erdogan has pretensions of being a modern day caliph causing him to enable ISIS in Syria for example. The reality is Turkey is just another Muslim clown car. For these reasons it's actually being talked about kicking Turkey out of NATO. Admittedly it hasn't gone too far yet but the discussion has begun.

4 hours ago, Pavel said:

But, you can't have double standards: NATO is OK, EU is not?

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8 hours ago, Pavel said:

I don’t like Erdogan, and actual regime in Turkey. But, you can't have double standards: NATO is OK, EU is not? It is not a good message, especially when we hear it from someone who belongs to the right wing in Germany ... Hitler was right wing and we know result...

Hitler was a national socialist. Socialist is not right wing. That is old communist propaganda. 

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7 hours ago, damirUSBiH said:

With France in flames, Italy in recession, Germany on the brink and in the hands of ghosts from the past, Greece in austerity, migration crisis unabating, EU military formation, Poland and Hungary sanctioned, Turkey is not top of the iceberg...

Immigration is the bottom of the iceberg and much larger than anything else. 

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7 hours ago, rainman said:

The EU parliament will vote this month whether to continue accession talks with Turkey. If they vote not to, Turkey will respond by flooding EU with the migrants it is being paid by EU to hold.

That will have to be dealt with. The whole immigration thing was instigated and is supported by the United Nations and all globalist organizations. Also by all the left wingers of each nation. It is the same reason we in America must fight our flood of illegal immigration from our southern flank. Yet the United States Senate has proven itself to be slightly more than half RINO (For lack of a better term, maybe crony capitalist), 

See Globalism

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k8kNhtZJLuN66TpDuo67WBV1U2JhhZIvAefxeMNK0ls/edit

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8 hours ago, 50 shades of black said:

Yep. Erdogan is not Turkey. To be clear, Erdogan has taken many steps that he knew would ensure that Turkey could not be considered for membership. I'm not sure he wants EU membership. But Erdogan, or this young nationalist, can't make decision in the name of one country, or Union..

Erdogan is a dictator as much as are Putin, Xi, Khameni, Castro, Maduro, or Kim Jong-un etc. 

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The continuing conundrum with Turkey is that there is no feasible way to create a "hard border" on its Eastern end.  You have all these countries with dubious citizens living in areas of rock and desert and only minimal control from the central government, and how do you keep migrants from flooding across the Border from the areas of the Caucasus and from Armenia and Kurdistan?  And that is before you  get to Iraq, Syria, and flows from further South and East.  

Right now, the Border with Turkey can be controlled by the EU as the choke point is the land border with Bulgaria. That border runs through some very rough terrain, dense forest in steep mountains that go on for miles and miles, with a passage as a practical matter through one river valley, itself narrow enough.  The EU and the Bulgarian police/army can put a damper on that Border without excessive costs. 

If as a migrant from the Muslim areas you were to instead attempt to cross into Greece, itself possible only in limited areas due to a fast-moving river as the border along one stretch, then you find yourself on the top arc of Greece, with its Border with Bulgaria again in high mountains and dense forests, all steep-sloped.  You would be pushed westward along the coastal route until reaching Thessaloniki, and there attempt to either go North and penetrate into Macedonia,  then in turn into Serbia  (not exactly hospitable countryside), and from there eventually into Hungary (good luck with that).  Or, you could attempt to pass into Albania (where getting robbed is likely, if not murdered), then work over to the Coast and try to hop a ferry into Italy via Brindisi. 

Between the rough terrain, the limited roads, and uncertain reception, this is an intimidating route.  So as long as Turkey is not in the EU, it acts as a choke or natural set of barriers with the EU at the Greek-Bulgarian Border.  How does Europe propose to maintain that Border when the EU admits Turkey?  It cannot.  Central to the EU is free movement of people within the EU States.  So that shifts the EU protection border to Eastern Turkey - where it is impossible to maintain. 

Therefore, Turkey will never become part of the EU.   Customs union is one thing.  Actual EU full membership is quite another.  I don't see it ever happening. 

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