Joe Biden, his son Hunter Biden, Ukraine Oil & Gas exploration company Burisma, and 2020 U.S. election shenanigans

[El Nikko + 2,145]

26 minutes ago, DayTrader said:

Yep. We need a new vote, the result was not what we hoped.

Not at all concerning.

Already had another vote when May tried to throw the election, every GE since 2015 is a referendum and just like other countries they make us vote and vote and vote until they get the write answer.

Anyway apparently we didn't know what we were voting for so we should be thankful they didn't allow us idiots voters to mess things up.

It all gets so tiresome, I've had to avoid every Brexit article like the plague for my own sanity.

I have to say when we got the results I wasn't too excited, I believed at the time that unless Trump was voted in it would be meaningless but I didn't expect that with Trump in office we'd still be getting messed around like this but then I didn't expect Trump to be blocked at every turn either....the deep state runs deep in both countries it seems.

I do believe we're going to leave with no deal they can't kick the can down the road for ever.

[El Nikko + 2,145]

On 9/20/2019 at 8:30 AM, Tom Kirkman said:

Video of Joe Biden admitting that he paid the Ukrainian President with $1 billion dollars to fire lead prosecutor investigating his son is apparently being scrubbed from YouTube and other social media.  Anyone interested may wish to watch before it gets memory holed.  Video already prompted at the 52 minute mark.  Yes, this is about Oil & Gas.

Foreign Affairs Issue Launch With Joe Biden

 

I get a black page, anyone else?

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11 minutes ago, El Nikko said:

I get a black page, anyone else?

Yes, here is one on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6zFXc_CNR8

There are plenty

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1 hour ago, El Nikko said:

No heads rolled over the illegal spying of a presidential candiate so nothing will happen from this I expect.

Politics in the US and UK have become a complete disgrace, it's all so corrupt and right in your face.

They have become a disgrace in Canada as well.  Look at Trudeau and SNC Lavalin. 

[Tomasz + 1,608]

 

For me it seems clearly that the USA or more broadly West, wanting to pull Ukraine out of the Russian sphere of influence to weaken Russia, was not fully aware of the mafia character of the Ukrainian state and, in general, that it was the worst-performing former republic of the USSR outside Moldova. There is a reason why I can assure you because I live in a country neighboring Ukraine - Poland and I see or heard about quite massively falsified Ukrainian driving licenses, university diplomas or even notary deeds as a lawyer.

The result is that Russia eventually tied to China, significantly strengthening the largest rival for American hegemony in the 21st e.g. by providing military technology and a huge resource base unavailable to the Chinese for now  and Maidan causes the most problems to Democrats of the Obama era, including Mr. Biden who personally oversaw the development of the situation in Ukraine. It would be nice if it would end his participation in the presidential campaign and there are probably good chances for that.

It also causes America a lot of problems because technologies from the former USSR located in Ukraine are traveling around the world - as reported by the New York Times most military engineers and well-educated specialist went to Belarus after Maidan (I wonder who they work there for) another part of this group traveled and work now in China.  North Korea has acquired advanced technology of ballistic missile engines and China a lot of military technologies, e.g. helicopters, relatively modern T-80UD and T-84 tanks, which would take them many years to reach, because so far even the post-soviet military technology was above their technological level but thanks to Maidan its no longer true.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Tomasz

[El Nikko + 2,145]

45 minutes ago, Tomasz said:

 

For me it seems clearly that the USA or more broadly West, wanting to pull Ukraine out of the Russian sphere of influence to weaken Russia, was not fully aware of the mafia character of the Ukrainian state and, in general, that it was the worst-performing former republic of the USSR outside Moldova. There is a reason why I can assure you because I live in a country neighboring Ukraine - Poland and I see or heard about quite massively falsified Ukrainian driving licenses, university diplomas or even notary deeds as a lawyer.

The result is that Russia eventually tied to China, significantly strengthening the largest rival for American hegemony in the 21st e.g. by providing military technology and a huge resource base unavailable to the Chinese for now  and Maidan causes the most problems to Democrats of the Obama era, including Mr. Biden who personally oversaw the development of the situation in Ukraine. It would be nice if it would end his participation in the presidential campaign and there are probably good chances for that.

It also causes America a lot of problems because technologies from the former USSR located in Ukraine are traveling around the world - as reported by the New York Times most military engineers and well-educated specialist went to Belarus after Maidan (I wonder who they work there for) another part of this group traveled and work now in China.  North Korea has acquired advanced technology of ballistic missile engines and China a lot of military technologies, e.g. helicopters, relatively modern T-80UD and T-84 tanks, which would take them many years to reach, because so far even the post-soviet military technology was above their technological level but thanks to Maidan its no longer true.

My feeling at the time was the partially engineered 'coup' if it really was one (I believe it was) was partially payback for the Russians blocking the war on Syria which really humiliated John Kerry & Co around the time of the G8 meeting in Ireland. They facilitated/guaranteed the removal of the chemical weapons and vetoed intervention and made everyone look like idiots after the red line comments.

The resulting violence that happened in the Eastern provinces of Lugansk and Donetsk was another example of the asymetrical warfare that seems so prevalent around the world these days as the Russians opened up the spigot of weapons to the rebels. For me this in turn showed up our MSM baddly at a time where people were already very mistrustful of the media...at the time I was involved with UKIP and Brexit and 'doing my bit' and was reading the news dutifully, I had no interest in the conflict in Ukraine until I started seeing the videos of the war which did not agree with the BBC's reporting one tiny bit.

It really has been a wild few years geopolitically

P.S excuse the spelling mistakes I'll bet there's at least 5

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

8 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

And it is interesting to note that the people voted for Brexit, and that the people voted for Trump.

Spot on.

Also, I fixed the typo of "not" to "note" in the text quote box above.  Douglas, you may wish to fix your original typo.

Seems as a moderator I no longer have the option of stealth editing / fixing comments by others.  In the past I have occasionally stealth edited to fix key typo mistakes, or to add paragraphs to a huge wall of text.  I never changed content, just cosmetic fixes if I felt it would be helpful on insightful comments by others.  Seems the forum software changes and upgrades are still ongoing...

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Well said Doug and thanks Tom

It was the same kind of people who voted for both, quite, unassuming and socially conservative who've just about had enough 'progress' for one lifetime. Unlike the hippy dippies we expect people to listen when we've finally had enough and stand up in unison.

Believe me here in the UK people are absolutely spewing with rage that they've been ignored, if we had the vote again it would be a massive victory.

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On 9/27/2019 at 3:15 PM, Tomasz said:

 

For me it seems clearly that the USA or more broadly West, wanting to pull Ukraine out of the Russian sphere of influence to weaken Russia, was not fully aware of the mafia character of the Ukrainian state and, in general, that it was the worst-performing former republic of the USSR outside Moldova. There is a reason why I can assure you because I live in a country neighboring Ukraine - Poland and I see or heard about quite massively falsified Ukrainian driving licenses, university diplomas or even notary deeds as a lawyer.

The result is that Russia eventually tied to China, significantly strengthening the largest rival for American hegemony in the 21st e.g. by providing military technology and a huge resource base unavailable to the Chinese for now  and Maidan causes the most problems to Democrats of the Obama era, including Mr. Biden who personally oversaw the development of the situation in Ukraine. It would be nice if it would end his participation in the presidential campaign and there are probably good chances for that.

It also causes America a lot of problems because technologies from the former USSR located in Ukraine are traveling around the world - as reported by the New York Times most military engineers and well-educated specialist went to Belarus after Maidan (I wonder who they work there for) another part of this group traveled and work now in China.  North Korea has acquired advanced technology of ballistic missile engines and China a lot of military technologies, e.g. helicopters, relatively modern T-80UD and T-84 tanks, which would take them many years to reach, because so far even the post-soviet military technology was above their technological level but thanks to Maidan its no longer true.

Ukraine comes from the Kievan Russ born of the Vikings and the Slavs melding together and they got their culture from the jewel of the region- the Byzantine Empire. "Byzantine" politics may be part of the package of culture they absorbed and it is something they need to UNLEARN and fast.  

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Comment copied & pasted in full.

 

Biden, Kerry, Heinz, and Archer Timeline

I’ve spent the past few nights in never ending rabbit holes on US, China, and Ukraine relations over the past 10 years.. I’ve took what I believe is the most critical and important information and structured this timeline, from 2009 until Biden’s decision to run for president.

2009

Hunter Biden (son of Vice President Joe Biden) and Chris Heinz (stepson of Secretary of State John Kerry) create Rosemont Capital, an international investment firm with the help of Devon Archer, a businessman and close friend of Heinz. Rosemont would eventually expand and adding two branches, Rosemont Realty and Rosemont Seneca Partners.

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2013

After months of tough talks with China. Biden & Kerry back down on the South China Sea Dispute. At which point China immediately ramps up activity on the disputed territories mostly with military bases being constructed.

12 days later the bank of China creates an investment fund with Rosemont Seneca, a branch of Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz’s Rosemont Capital. The fund name was Bohai Harvest Rosemont more commonly known as BHR.

China also allows Rosemont to set up shop in the shanghai zone..which means Rosemont would actually be allowed to take chinese goverment money and actually invest it outside of China..even in the US. Making rosemont the only western company in world with that power.

Within 2 weeks the BHR fund secured $1.5 billion dollars.

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2014

John Kerry visits China, a climate accord is reached between China and the US and it’s headline news around the world.

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What doesn’t make headline news is a state-backed chinese company under the name of Gemini purchases 75% of Rosemont’s Realty branch for $75 million...a few months later, Gemini invest $34 million into a Rosemont fund.

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Hunter Biden is discharged from the US navy for cocaine usage..

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White House records show Joe Biden holds a meeting in white house with Devon Archer.

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Devon Archer opens a foreign limited liability company under the name Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC, using a Ft. Lauderdale Adress.

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5 days later, Biden travels to meet with Ukrainian officials in Kiev and offers Ukraine $1 billion to help aid Ukraine’s natural gas industry and economy.

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Less than a week later Devon Archer joins the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian natural gas company.

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2 weeks later Hunter Biden joins Archer as a board member of Burisma, coincidentally this is around the same time Senator Edward Markey along with 3 other senators write Obama a letter asking for increased aid in Ukraine around the same time.

"We should leverage the full resources and expertise of the U.S. government to assist Ukraine in improving its energy efficiency, increasing its domestic production, and reforming its energy markets," wrote Markey, who has also proposed legislation with about $40 million in additional aide for Ukranian energy development.

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Neither Hunter nor Devon had any experience in the energy sector field, records obtained show Hunter Biden was being paid north of $50,0000 a month by Burisma.

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Meanwhile back in China, a company named AVIC (aviation industry corporation of china) has been secretly stealing US technologies related to a F-35 stealth fighter jets..AVIC also teams up with a fund known as BHR, the same BHR fund that is owned by Biden and Kerry’s sons and had secured $1.5 billion from the chinese goverment.

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Burisma makes a $3.4 million dollar payment to Rosemont Seneca Bohaii LLC.

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2015

AVIC buys 51% of a technology known as henniges, Biden and Kerry’s BHR fund purchases the remaining 49%.

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Henniges was an anti-vibration technology considered a dual use because it’s used in on military vehicles..like an F-35.

This technology was on the restricted commerce list so it would be require the approval from the committee of foreign investments of the united states for it to be released..the person in responsible for that decision? John Kerry, the secretary of state, and the stepfather of chris heinz who’s BHR fund bought 49%.

His state department approved the deal the same year.

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BHR then teams up with a Beijing company this time to buy 100% of a rare earth material called molybdenum. 4 years earlier, the US had filed a complaint to the world trade organization charging Beijing with attempting to control the worlds rare-earth minerals, the WTO ruled in the US’s favor.

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Back in Ukraine, Burisma makes another $3.4 million payment to Rosemont Seneca Bohaii, LLC..sparking a potential corruption probe into the natural gas company, which 2 years earlier had placed Hunter Biden and Devon Archer as head board members after Joe Biden used $1 Billion of US money to help boost Ukraines gas and economic industries.

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2016

a high profile Ukrainian prosecutor by the name of Shokin launches a relentless corruption probe into Burisma..and almost instantly started feeling pressure receiving pressure from the ukranian president to not pursue any further in the investigation of Burisma.

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"On several occasions President Poroshenko asked me to have a look at the case against Burisma and consider the possibility of winding down the investigative actions in respect of this company but I refused to close this investigation," Shokin would later claim in reports recently obtained by the hill.

So despite Shokin’s best efforts and unwillingness to pursue justice, as he got closer to bringing hunter biden in for questioning regarding $3.4 million, so did the pressure from Ukranian officials..which were in constant contact with US vice president Joe Biden.

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A withdrawal is made from Rosemont Seneca Bohaii’s account on March 7th and it’s the last activity ever recorded.

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Days later, Biden threatens Ukraine to end the investigation or he would cancel $1 billion in US loan guarantees.

a video has since surfaced in 2018 of him bragging about the blackmailing of Ukraine with US Taxpayer money to have Shokin terminated.

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"I said, 'You're not getting the billion.' I'm going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: 'I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money,'" Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

But Biden Actually flew Poroshenko to Washington for a ‘working lunch..’

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and the investigation into Burisma ended.

2017

June, Devon Archer along with two other men are arrested for conspiracy to commit securities fraud that totaled more than $60 million.

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2018

November, a jury finds Devon Archer along with the two other men guilty of conspiracy to commit security fraud.

But U.S. District Judge Ronnie Abrams overturned the jury’s decision on Devon Archer, ruling..

“the evidence at the trial earlier this year had not shown that the man, Devon Archer, knew that the bond issue was fraudulent, or that he received any personal benefit from it.”and said she was "left with an unwavering concern that Archer is innocent of the crimes charged."

She upheld the convictions of the other two men who were tried and convicted alongside Archer.

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2019

April 20th, Hunter Biden leaves Burisma.

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April 25th Joe Biden announces his candidacy for president of the United States.

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[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

And here is the Democrats plan for impeaching Trump in October 2019, and removing him from re-election in 2020.

You may wish to read this explanation twice, it's fairly complex if you are new to the game and you still listen to CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. 

So far, Sundance has been bang on accurate in his analysis and predictions, so ignore if you wish, but I certainly won't.

Short excerpt below.  Detailed analysis in the link:

Pelosi’s House Rule Changes are Key Part of “Articles of Impeachment”, Being Drafted Over Next Two Weeks

Back in December 2018 CTH noted the significant House rule changes constructed by Nancy Pelosi for the 116th congress seemed specifically geared toward impeachment. {Go Deep} With the House going into a scheduled calendar recess, those rules are now being used to subvert historic processes and construct the articles of impeachment.

A formal vote to initiate an “impeachment inquiry” is not technically required; however, there has always been a full house vote until now.  The reason not to have a House vote is simple: if the formal process was followed the minority (republicans) would have enforceable rights within it.  Without a vote to initiate, the articles of impeachment can be drawn up without any participation by the minority; and without any input from the executive.  This was always the plan that was visible in Pelosi’s changed House rules.  ...

 

The Democrats are going to act fast.  Remember, by design Speaker Pelosi has this set up so that Republicans don’t even participate in the impeachment process.  There are no republicans participating in the assembly of the articles of impeachment.  Stunningly, and as an outcome of those earlier rule changes, there is no minority voice in this process.

When the 116th congress returns from their break on October 15th, 2019, the Articles of Impeachment will have already been assembled: [House Calendar Link]  ...

 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Comment copied & pasted in full.

@James Regan , THIS is effort haha. My China one was just copy and paste. But Tom loves those rabbit holes. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

11 minutes ago, DayTrader said:

But Tom loves those rabbit holes. 

I've been going down rabbit holes probably since you were in diapers.  Watching this soft coup attempt to eliminate Trump is one of the most instructive games of "lawfare" I have ever seen.

[James Regan + 1,776]

3 hours ago, DayTrader said:

@James Regan , THIS is effort haha. My China one was just copy and paste. But Tom loves those rabbit holes. 

I know what Toms capable of so I dont tell him hes good he will get all upety and hes fine the way he is, but as were just grommets we can josh around and bum each other up...

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

4 hours ago, James Regan said:

I know what Toms capable of so I dont tell him hes good he will get all upety and hes fine the way he is, but as were just grommets we can josh around and bum each other up...

Nah, my better stuff remains anonymous, on forums elsewhere.  Safer that way.  This forum is mostly for amusement for me.

That Biden timeline summary was well done by whoever put it together.  Links and docs provided to support every single point.  Doin it right, allowing others to dig for themselves.

 

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2 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Nah, my better stuff remains anonymous, on forums elsewhere.  Safer that way.  This forum is mostly for amusement for me.

That Biden timeline summary was well done by whoever put it together.  Links and docs provided to support every single point.  Doin it right, allowing others to dig for themselves.

 

Tom I think its amusement for most, its far enough away from the mind numbing of FB etc, but has a lot of good content also- Potpurri or plethora of it all.

@Douglas Buckland plethora im getting the hang of that myriad  of countless fancy words, or I may just being pedantic lol..... Old git.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

James,

I see that you’ve discovered the thesaurus. Well done!😄

[James Regan + 1,776]

24 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

James,

I see that you’ve discovered the thesaurus. Well done!😄

Lets talk guns in our safe place, some mentoring required by our usual channel SSSHHH our safe place with guns...😂😎 Bangy Bangy

[James Regan + 1,776]

31 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

James,

I see that you’ve discovered the thesaurus. Well done!😄

Actually Doug I only had to check the spelling Potpurri, the rest is part of the Subsea Engineers education, and we are also  connoisseurs of coffee, cigarettes, conversation and the art of smoke shack frequenting very frequently... 

Edited September 29, 2019 by James Regan

[James Regan + 1,776]

Whats in a word? - Lets consider nepotism as a crime, recent events considered and past.

Amid the controversy about presidential son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner's inability to get a full White House security clearance, it's often been referred to as "the problem with nepotism" or "the reason we have nepotism laws." What is nepotism, technically, and is it illegal in the White House?

What is nepotism, and is it illegal?

Nepotism is showing favoritism to family members in business, and giving them opportunities or advantageous treatment not shown others, or that they may not be qualified for. The term originated in the Italian Catholic church of the Middle Ages, when popes and bishops would give their nephews ("nepos" in Latin) preferential positions. (Having taken a vow of chastity, the clergymen had no children of their own.)

More recently, a federal anti-nepotism law was enacted after the Kennedy administration, in which John F. Kennedy appointed his brother Bobby to be his attorney general and his brother-in-law Sargent Shriver to be the first director of the Peace Corps. Although there was no wrongdoing involved, Congress decided it was best for the country to avoid even the appearance of favoritism in the Oval Office on down: It was once common for Congressmen to hire their wives as secretaries, and married people can't be compelled to testify against each other.

The 1967 federal nepotism law states, "A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."

So based on this Sleepy Joe should be investigated under Federal laws, JB certainly has filled the criteria in BOLD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7_8EGf0NE (consider what JB was doing behind the scenes)

 

https://www.metro.us/president-trump/what-is-nepotism-is-it-illegal

[James Regan + 1,776]

3 hours ago, James Regan said:

Bold section added link to video, shocking, truly shocking

 

Whats in a word? - Lets consider nepotism as a crime, recent events considered and past.

Amid the controversy about presidential son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner's inability to get a full White House security clearance, it's often been referred to as "the problem with nepotism" or "the reason we have nepotism laws." What is nepotism, technically, and is it illegal in the White House?

What is nepotism, and is it illegal?

Nepotism is showing favoritism to family members in business, and giving them opportunities or advantageous treatment not shown others, or that they may not be qualified for. The term originated in the Italian Catholic church of the Middle Ages, when popes and bishops would give their nephews ("nepos" in Latin) preferential positions. (Having taken a vow of chastity, the clergymen had no children of their own.)

More recently, a federal anti-nepotism law was enacted after the Kennedy administration, in which John F. Kennedy appointed his brother Bobby to be his attorney general and his brother-in-law Sargent Shriver to be the first director of the Peace Corps. Although there was no wrongdoing involved, Congress decided it was best for the country to avoid even the appearance of favoritism in the Oval Office on down: It was once common for Congressmen to hire their wives as secretaries, and married people can't be compelled to testify against each other.

The 1967 federal nepotism law states, "A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."

So based on this Sleepy Joe should be investigated under Federal laws, JB certainly has filled the criteria in BOLD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7_8EGf0NE (

consider what JB was doing behind the scenes)

Now consider this of Biden bragging about doing the same thing if not worse than Mr President Donald Trump, click link below:

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY

https://www.metro.us/president-trump/what-is-nepotism-is-it-illegal

 

[El Nikko + 2,145]

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

 

9 hours ago, James Regan said:

Whats in a word? - Lets consider nepotism as a crime, recent events considered and past.

Amid the controversy about presidential son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner's inability to get a full White House security clearance, it's often been referred to as "the problem with nepotism" or "the reason we have nepotism laws." What is nepotism, technically, and is it illegal in the White House?

What is nepotism, and is it illegal?

Nepotism is showing favoritism to family members in business, and giving them opportunities or advantageous treatment not shown others, or that they may not be qualified for. The term originated in the Italian Catholic church of the Middle Ages, when popes and bishops would give their nephews ("nepos" in Latin) preferential positions. (Having taken a vow of chastity, the clergymen had no children of their own.)

More recently, a federal anti-nepotism law was enacted after the Kennedy administration, in which John F. Kennedy appointed his brother Bobby to be his attorney general and his brother-in-law Sargent Shriver to be the first director of the Peace Corps. Although there was no wrongdoing involved, Congress decided it was best for the country to avoid even the appearance of favoritism in the Oval Office on down: It was once common for Congressmen to hire their wives as secretaries, and married people can't be compelled to testify against each other.

The 1967 federal nepotism law states, "A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."

So based on this Sleepy Joe should be investigated under Federal laws, JB certainly has filled the criteria in BOLD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7_8EGf0NE (consider what JB was doing behind the scenes)

 

https://www.metro.us/president-trump/what-is-nepotism-is-it-illegal

Once again this forum uses the "but they did it too!" as if it's an excuse for trump's crimes. Trump appoints his friends and family - shocker!  Loopholes

It's not like trump invented sexual assault either, but hey "just grab them by the pussy."

Edited September 29, 2019 by Enthalpic