camarint + 1 AC March 23, 2022 Nice to see that. Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 23, 2022 (edited) On 11/9/2021 at 7:22 PM, specinho said: Not sure if this illustration is correct............. the sky is the limit? If a TV programme can be broadcasted without a satellite in the late 20's, that might mean images could be sent without a satellite? Shall for high security communication purpose, a satellite is put up, what is the story on competition to cover the earth with it? 😳 To deflect potential hit of asteroid? 😯   A theory was up recently........... will pool game be helpful to knock it off?? Say M1V1 = M2V2. Anyone is up to do a simulation? 👾 Probably looking for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropospheric_scatter Making a bit of a comeback lately, at least in Russia. (US and USSR both used to use this to communicate with some military junk out in the polar region) Edited June 14, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsdp + 449 eh March 24, 2022 On 11/8/2021 at 4:07 PM, turbguy said: No very much faster. If at all. You use light from lasers in international fiber optic.  Satellite transmissions require electromagnetic spectrum. EU and FCC aren't selling any right now unless you are willing to go back to the sub 540 khz range. (old AM radio frequency) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190 March 25, 2022 On 3/12/2020 at 8:15 AM, BenFranklin'sSpectacles said: International phone calls over fiber are already possible. One of the advantages of space-based communication is that light travels faster in a vacuum, reducing latency. If you believe that I have a massive swamp on the bottom of the ocean to sell you. Do you also believe there are chiefs in Ghana who do not know how to get rid of their gold? Do you also believe there are hot 19 year old women just waiting for your highness to collect them? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 March 30, 2022 On 3/24/2022 at 11:40 PM, nsdp said: If at all. You use light from lasers in international fiber optic.  Satellite transmissions require electromagnetic spectrum. EU and FCC aren't selling any right now unless you are willing to go back to the sub 540 khz range. (old AM radio frequency) Light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum. However, tightbeam communications are not necessarily subject to FCC-like regs, because there is no broadcast involved. Knock yourself out if you want more detail https://digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1102&context=ipbrief On 3/25/2022 at 6:33 AM, footeab@yahoo.com said: If you believe that I have a massive swamp on the bottom of the ocean to sell you. Do you also believe there are chiefs in Ghana who do not know how to get rid of their gold? Do you also believe there are hot 19 year old women just waiting for your highness to collect them? There is nothing unusual about freespace laser coms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 709 April 9, 2022 On 11/4/2021 at 3:17 PM, Eyes Wide Open said: Yes I do Ron, the picture quality was stunning as compared to Dish. Night and day, most HD is done by the sports industry and watching those programs in Off The Air broadcasting left a very bad taste in my mouth. I switched from Dish to youtubetv, now they want me to pay extra for HD. They do show a few things in HD for some reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsdp + 449 eh April 9, 2022 On 3/30/2022 at 4:46 AM, Andrei Moutchkine said: Light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum. However, tightbeam communications are not necessarily subject to FCC-like regs, because there is no broadcast involved. Knock yourself out if you want more detail https://digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1102&context=ipbrief There is nothing unusual about freespace laser coms No there is nothing unusual but if you want to operate one at more than 10 watts you have to have an FCC license. https://www.caci.com/sites/default/files/2020-10/F506_201023_CICADA_LaserComm.pdf Just when did you get a license to practice law in the US Judicial System?  I got mine from the US Supreme Court in 1981. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 June 14, 2022 On 4/10/2022 at 12:25 AM, nsdp said: No there is nothing unusual but if you want to operate one at more than 10 watts you have to have an FCC license. https://www.caci.com/sites/default/files/2020-10/F506_201023_CICADA_LaserComm.pdf Just when did you get a license to practice law in the US Judicial System?  I got mine from the US Supreme Court in 1981. You don't need one for actual comms in outer space. "Freespace laser" means any odd laser that does not use a special medium, like a fiber. Easy to confuse the two. Every space laser is a freespace variety, but the opposite is not true. Ah, the Supreme Court. An organization that is supposed to divinate on the US Constitution to find stuff which was never there to start with and manages to do something else every time. I am a fan! With the rest of the organization (USA) being en entirely lawless crime syndicate anyway, this one is just a bit of innocent fun. There is a source of higher law than the US Supreme Court, and it is the law of logic. Violate it at your own peril. Just to nitpick, are the FCC regs not really laws, due to FCC being an agency of the Executive branch. Oh, and since when does the Supreme Court administer bar examinations? I thought the States do that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 June 14, 2022 (edited) On 3/24/2022 at 11:40 PM, nsdp said: If at all. You use light from lasers in international fiber optic.  Satellite transmissions require electromagnetic spectrum. EU and FCC aren't selling any right now unless you are willing to go back to the sub 540 khz range. (old AM radio frequency) Neither EU nor FCC has any authority in outer space. The spectrum is considered some sort of public domain / research / unlicensed. See https://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/introouterspacetreaty.html Note that this does not apply to whatever ground stations you may need. Those are subject to regulation by host countries where they are located, of course. As a practical matter, the actual TV satellite communication frequency tends to be in the region of 12 GHz and is already licensed for the application appropriately. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-noise_block_downconverter#Standard_North_America_Ku_band_LNB Edited June 14, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 June 14, 2022 On 3/12/2020 at 4:15 PM, BenFranklin'sSpectacles said: International phone calls over fiber are already possible. One of the advantages of space-based communication is that light travels faster in a vacuum, reducing latency. The most expensive part of communications is usually not the transmission, but misc. multiplexing/demultiplexing. Optical is no different there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites