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1 minute ago, Ecocharger said:

Where? That ICE fossil fuel vehicle which is parked in your driveway? Yah, I can see your commitment to your personal fossil fuel vehicles as something which is realistic.

So you admit defeat. I accept your capitulation.

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7 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

If you understood economics you would know that is not the proper outcome because in reality we all known that it is due to a decrease in supply.

Your usual nonsense, Jay.

The reality is that the strength of the fossil fuel markets is sustaining what is left of the American economy. Biden & Co. are planning huge taxes on the oil sector to try and bail out the government from its reckless spending binges.

The stock market? Look at this,

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/How-Long-Will-The-Epic-Rally-In-Energy-Stocks-Last.html

"Energy is leading the S&P 500, jumping by 57% YTD.

Out of the top ten best-performing stocks in the S&P 500 year to date, nine are energy companies"

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5 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

So you admit defeat. I accept your capitulation.

I accept that you have capitulated to fossil fuel vehicles, one of which is parked in your very own driveway, Jay.

Thank you for acknowledging my victory by your purchase.

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1 minute ago, Ecocharger said:

Your usual nonsense, Jay.

The reality is that the strength of the fossil fuel markets is sustaining what is left of the American economy. Biden & Co. are planning huge taxes to try and bail out the government from its reckless spending binges.

The stock market? Look at this,

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/How-Long-Will-The-Epic-Rally-In-Energy-Stocks-Last.html

And Goldman predicts that 

Goldman Sachs predicts the surplus will rein in the skyrocketing cost of battery metals. The analysts predict the annual average price of lithium will peak at about $54,000 per metric ton this year—nearly nine times higher than it was in 2020. But they believe the price will quickly drop to $11,000 per metric ton by 2024, which is (merely) double the 2020 price.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

So you admit defeat. I accept your capitulation.

Jay It a time for your capitulation, the  quad is now forming in Asia. Another Trump policy. 

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2 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

I accept that you have capitulated to fossil fuel vehicles, one of which is parked in your very own driveway, Jay.

Thank you for acknowledging my victory by your purchase.

My purchase was 12 years ago. The Model S was still 2 years in the future.

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1 minute ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Jay It a time for your capitulation, the  quad is now forming in Asia. Another Trump policy. 

Post it in politics, irrelevant to energy.

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4 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

And Goldman predicts that 

Goldman Sachs predicts the surplus will rein in the skyrocketing cost of battery metals. The analysts predict the annual average price of lithium will peak at about $54,000 per metric ton this year—nearly nine times higher than it was in 2020. But they believe the price will quickly drop to $11,000 per metric ton by 2024, which is (merely) double the 2020 price.

 

 

The reality of what is happening defies that prediction, in the very words quoted here.

"They believe"....pathetic.

Here is the reality,

"Energy is leading the S&P 500, jumping by 57% YTD.

Out of the top ten best-performing stocks in the S&P 500 year to date, nine are energy companies"

2 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

My purchase was 12 years ago. The Model S was still 2 years in the future.

Your fossil fuel car still sits there in your driveway, it has not been replaced by an EV.

That acknowledges my victory.

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6 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

The reality of what is happening defies that prediction, in the very words quoted here.

"They believe"....pathetic.

Here is the reality,

"Energy is leading the S&P 500, jumping by 57% YTD.

Out of the top ten best-performing stocks in the S&P 500 year to date, nine are energy companies"

Your fossil fuel car still sits there in your driveway, it has not been replaced by an EV.

That acknowledges my victory.

Because of a war time shock. Only an imbecile thinks that it is a long term trend. High oil prices are just driving up the demand for EVs.

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7 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Because of a war time shock. Only an imbecile thinks that it is a long term trend. High oil prices are just driving up the demand for EVs.

Nonsense, Jay, the war merely revealed the underlying strength and power of the fossil fuel sector, which is the only segment still propping up the American economy.

Old Biden is hanging on to the fossil fuels sector with the hope of massive tax grabs to help bail out his wild spending plans.

Your own fossil fuel car sits in your driveway, a mute acknowledgment of the victory of fossil fuels.

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3 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

Nonsense, Jay, the war merely revealed the underlying strength and power of the fossil fuel sector, which is the only segment still propping up the American economy.

Old Biden is hanging on the fossil fuels sector with the hope of massive tax grabs to help bail out his wild spending plans.

No the war showed fossil fuels last gasp. That is why Putin knew it was now or never because the Russian economy was rapidly being ramped out of existence.

Now the effort to get rid of fossil fuels has gone into overdrive.

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4 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

No the war showed fossil fuels last gasp. That is why Putin knew it was now or never because the Russian economy was rapidly being ramped out of existence.

Your logic is counterfactual, Jay, the stock markets are ramping up in the fossil fuel stocks, showing that smart investors are betting on oil and gasoline for the long haul.

You yourself park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which acknowledges the supremacy of fossil fuels.

Here is your pork pie hat, Jay.

https://www.trendhim.ca/paolo-pork-pie-moda-panama-hat-p.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsq6Ov9GQ-AIVFJJbCh0wwQWhEAQYAiABEgJGJfD_BwE

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Just now, Ecocharger said:

Your logic is counterfactual, Jay, the stock markets are ramping up in the fossil fuel stocks, showing that smart investors are betting on oil and gasoline for the long haul.

You yourself park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which acknowledges the supremacy of fossil fuels.

The stock market is notorious for being short sighted and quarterlies based. Clearly you never studied economics.

 

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1 minute ago, Jay McKinsey said:

The stock market is notorious for being short sighted and quarterlies based. Clearly you never studied economics.

 

The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy, Jay.

Fossil fuels are hot.

You park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which cements my point.

And you have to rely on me not just for basic financial analysis, but I have to correct your nomenclature for haberdashery.

This is what is known as a "pork pie hat", like the one which you wear.

https://www.bon-clic-bon-genre.eu/mon-porkpie-ete.htm

 

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20 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy, Jay.

Fossil fuels are hot.

You park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which cements my point.

And you have to rely on me not just for basic financial analysis, but I have to correct your nomenclature for haberdashery.

This is what is known as a "pork pie hat", like the one which you wear.

https://www.bon-clic-bon-genre.eu/mon-porkpie-ete.htm

 

Yet EV sales just keep increasing at a fantastic rate. Hand made Panama Fedoras are much more difficult to predict because dummies like you don't know what is going on.

 

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5 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Yet EV sales just keep increasing at a fantastic rate. Hand made Panama Fedoras are much more difficult to predict because of dummies like you don't know what is going on.

 

EVs are less than 1% of the vehicle market value, not even a marginal interest.

What counts is the huge fossil fuel sector which is currently propping up the American economy and providing a taxation target for a desperate American government bent on wild spending sprees.

Irresponsible government spending will soon bring about a cleansing result in the midterms.

Yes, that pork pie hat which you sport in that picture above is a genuine artifact from pre-WWI fashion.

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13 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

EVs are less than 1% of the vehicle market value, not even a marginal interest.

What counts is the huge fossil fuel sector which is currently propping up the American economy and providing a taxation target for a desperate American government bent on wild spending sprees.

Irresponsible government spending will soon bring about a cleansing result in the midterms.

Yes, that pork pie hat which you sport in that picture above is a genuine artifact from pre-WWI fashion.

 You are clueless and you have no idea what a straw Fedora or fashion are. This is my hat:

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13 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy, Jay.

Fossil fuels are hot.

You park a fossil fuel vehicle in your own driveway, which cements my point.

And you have to rely on me not just for basic financial analysis, but I have to correct your nomenclature for haberdashery.

This is what is known as a "pork pie hat", like the one which you wear.

https://www.bon-clic-bon-genre.eu/mon-porkpie-ete.htm

 

The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy,????

Is this why the market cap for Tesla is 729 Billion dollars and Ford is only 54 Billion?????  demand forces makes Tesla worth over 13 times Ford....Got it

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8 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

 You are clueless and you have no idea what a straw Fedora or fashion are. This is my hat:

image.thumb.png.df41b35de8b3532c6db5923e4c4afaa0.png

You can keep it.

That is not the same hat as in your photograph.

In the photo, you are wearing a pork pie hat.

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5 hours ago, notsonice said:

The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy,????

Is this why the market cap for Tesla is 729 Billion dollars and Ford is only 54 Billion?????  demand forces makes Tesla worth over 13 times Ford....Got it

Market value for vehicles of EVs is less than 1%.

That is not even a marginal player. 

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37 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

You can keep it.

That is not the same hat as in your photograph.

In the photo, you are wearing a pork pie hat.

No you are just a clueless buffoon. Same hat.

Here is the uncropped version of my avatar photo and I will keep it. It is a Goorin Bros.

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51 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

No you are just a clueless buffoon. Same hat.

Here is the uncropped version of my avatar photo and I will keep it. It is a Goorin Bros.

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1 minute ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

 

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Nah, just correcting stupidity. Just like I always correct you.

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6 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Nah, just correcting stupidity. Just like I always correct you.

Why thankyou for your generous introduction....

 

America’s Summer of Rolling Blackouts

Green energy policies are making the nation’s electric-power grid increasingly unstable.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-summer-of-rolling-blackouts-green-energy-grid-north-american-electric-reliability-corporation-11653683348

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13 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Why thankyou for your generous introduction....

 

America’s Summer of Rolling Blackouts

Green energy policies are making the nation’s electric-power grid increasingly unstable.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-summer-of-rolling-blackouts-green-energy-grid-north-american-electric-reliability-corporation-11653683348

Hasn't happened. Although failing fossil fuel plants, particularly in Texas, are a concern.

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