GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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6 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

So much for your EV subsidies complaint.  Not a problem because EV's are at price parity with ICE at the top end and very soon at the bottom end of the market.

And very soon to be hit with a 25% luxury tax....that is a game changer.

This puts off your own future purchase of an EV, you will have to stick with your current ICE model.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/norway-s-proposed-luxury-tax-for-evs-might-bring-a-worldwide-trend-170794.html

" Tesla is leading with its Model Y, but the situation could be different if the next government will impose a luxury tax on EVs. The latter has already been discussed, and it may bring an end to the popularity of some of the most expensive EVs offered in the country."

Edited October 5, 2021 by Ecocharger

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Just now, Ecocharger said:

And very soon to be hit with a 25% luxury tax....that is a game changer.

You can watch with amazement as EV sales keep growing and growing.

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7 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You can watch with amazement as EV sales keep growing and growing.

Not....you won't be buying that EV anytime soon with a 25% luxury tax added on.

Edited October 5, 2021 by Ecocharger

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The current energy crunch is being fueled by the very same anti-fossil fuel governments that are now complaining about a lack of fossil fuel energy...could anything be more ridiculous? Even for politics, this has to be the most self-defeating act ever.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/The-Real-Reason-OPEC-Refused-To-Boost-Production-Further.html

"It was no coincidence that OPEC Secretary-General Mohamed Barkindo said last week that the world cannot afford to underinvest in oil. However strong the green push of Europe, the United States, and more recently China, the recent energy crunch should be proof enough that the world still depends on fossil fuels.

“The energy crisis in Europe and many parts of the world is a wake-up call,” Barkindo said, as quoted by the Wall Street Journal, adding, “It all comes back to the issue of investment across the oil-and-gas industry.”

Yet a lot of OPEC members suffer from chronic underinvestment, aggravated by last year’s pandemic blow to demand. Banks, too busy making net-zero commitments, have also become less willing to finance oil and gas projects, and the companies normally responsible for these projects - the supermajors and other large oil and gas players - have themselves stepped on the net-zero path. 

Sure enough, they still invest in their core business with TotalEnergies, for instance, recently unveiling a massive investment plan for Iraq focusing on oil although also including building solar power capacities in OPEC’s number-two exporter. Yet overall, Big Oil is turning its back on what made it Big Oil. And that’s bad news for production capacity. Without that production capacity, even the most West-friendly OPEC member would find it hard to deliver on requests for more oil once barrels in storage have been exhausted."

Edited October 5, 2021 by Ecocharger

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3 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

And very soon to be hit with a 25% luxury tax....that is a game changer.

This puts off your own future purchase of an EV, you will have to stick with your current ICE model.

The Norwegian proposal makes sense for their economy as they are losing far too much in taxation at present.

By 2025 there will be NO ICE vehicles in Norway for sale which is why they are talking about taxing the high end EV's as otherwise the government will lose too much in tax revenue.

This isn't going to slow down EV adoption in Norway as there wont be an alternative!!!

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/time-norway-tax-luxury-electric-cars-imf-economists-say-2021-06-10/

Norway is a wealthy nation, ironically all thanks to oil + gas (Its $13 for a beer!!)

Wages are high and taxes are high.

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16 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

The bottom line....oil production will continue to increase into the foreseeable future, perhaps as a smaller percentage of the overall energy mix, but still growing in absolute terms. This is a no-doubter.

No matter which side of the fence you sit the above is true.

The world is addicted to energy and the world needs the oil + gas markets as much as ever before IMO.

Maybe in 20-30 years time we will see a decline in oil + gas as alternative energy proves cheaper and greener, but that is still very much a maybe.

Nuclear power and SMR's could also be a key factor in the energy mix

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On 10/3/2021 at 5:09 PM, Jay McKinsey said:

We are seeing the true cost of fossil fuels. The market has decided they are bad investments. Now we will move away from them faster than ever.

LOL!  How about the true cost of semiconductors?  Looks to me like a big dose of inflation due to stupid govt printing.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/silicon-metals-300-price-surge-throws-another-wrench-global-supply-chain

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Then, there is this corroboration to deal with...

"Syukuro Manabe – awarded the 2021 Nobel Prize in Physics – demonstrated how increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere lead to increased temperatures at the surface of the Earth. His work laid the foundation for the development of current climate models".

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by turbguy

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Yes but there is also this

https://www.hoover.org/research/flawed-climate-models

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On 10/1/2021 at 5:28 AM, turbguy said:

This is effectively identical to mechanical gearing.

Not sure if it is....... >.<

I was thinking more into the line of being independent from natural wind.... by having enclosed, man made gas flow that strong enough to turn the turbine........

On 10/3/2021 at 12:36 AM, Ecocharger said:

Going forward, a massive energy shortage and oil price increase, primarily due to the misguided climate policies of governments and panic-driven hysteria. It is always better to think before you leap, a piece of advice which current governments have completely ignored in their wild deliberations.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Bank-Of-America-Energy-Crunch-Could-Lead-To-100-Oil-And-Economic-Crisis.html

Not sure if those officers you mentioned are fans of scientology or movie Indiana Jones but.......

In the movie, a leap was made before seeing the bridge over a deep valley by sere believe in SCIENCE........

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On 10/3/2021 at 2:08 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

Tesla has another record breaking quarter, on track for 60% YOY growth:

It looks like this quarter’s delivery wave was successful as Tesla reported record deliveries of 241,300 electric cars in Q3 2021.

	Production	Deliveries	Subject to operating lease accounting
Model S/X	8,941	9,275	20%
Model 3/Y	228,882	232,025	6%
Total	237,823	241,300	7%

Wow........... what an OVERdelivery that is.................. 'n'

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UK EV up 3 points since August!!

The UK auto market saw plugin electric vehicles take 21.65% share in September, up over 2x year-on-year. Full battery electrics outperformed, alone taking 15.2% share and a record 32,721 unit volume. Old-school diesel sales fell off a cliff, dropping to under 5% market share

 

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1 hour ago, specinho said:

Not sure if it is....... >.<

I was thinking more into the line of being independent from natural wind.... by having enclosed, man made gas flow that strong enough to turn the turbine........

Yup, it is equivalent.  Small amount of torque in, large amount of torque out.  Or, small amount of RPM's in, large amount of RPM's out.   Ignoring losses, the energy is conserved if hydraulic, or mechanical.

The energy required to move the gas mass will never be completely recouped from a turbine (by quite a large amount).  There are always losses.

If you mean a man-made structure to ENHANCE or CONCENTRATE natural gas flow (say, by funneling the mass flow), that has been attempted.

Edited October 5, 2021 by turbguy

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"Once again, where is all of that electric power going to come from?  Much will come from Wyoming but we won’t get anything for it if these Legislators continue to hide their heads in the coal dust and refuse to insist that we get paid a fair revenue for our huge part in filling this national need".

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2021/10/04/kip-crofts-why-would-we-not-consider-putting-a-tax-on-wind-and-solar/

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Trump just announced the oil found in his sebacious cyst on his left testicle is enough to fuel the US for the next 5 years!  Oil prices are now coming down from the news from their most recent highs.  Trump says 'It's the sweetest crude yet'.

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The current energy crisis is bringing home the reality of the future trends in energy policy.

Oil and fossil fuels will not disappear, they will continue to grow.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Energy-Transition-Will-Take-Decades-Not-Years.html

"By early 2022, demand for all fossil fuels is expected to have reached or exceeded pre-pandemic levels, highlighting the challenges of the energy transition to secure reliable - and preferably affordable - energy for the world.

“The energy transition and decarbonisation are decade-long strategies and do not happen overnight,” Cuneyt Kazokoglu, head of oil demand analysis at consultancy FGE, told Reuters.

Last year’s slump in fossil fuel demand had nothing to do with the energy transition: it had everything to do with the lockdowns and economic decline, Kazokoglu said.

A rushed transition without considering the still enormous role that fossil fuels play in the economy and consumers’ lifestyle risks exposing the global energy market to supply crunches and price spikes.

“Prices for fossil fuels will remain volatile, perhaps more so than today since the risk of a supply-demand imbalance is greater in a market that is shrinking where the case for further investment is weak, which could produce short-term rallies,” Nikos Tsafos, the James R. Schlesinger Chair for Energy and Geopolitics with at Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), wrote in a commentary last month.

The price of commodities critical for the energy transition - such as the key metals lithium, cobalt, nickel, or copper - are also prone to volatility, Tsafos notes.

The energy transition will not be smooth sailing and will take decades. In the meantime, fossil fuels will continue to support the global economy and the security of the energy supply.

Even the IEA, while saying that well-managed energy transitions would be the solution - not the problem - in the current gas and power crises, acknowledged that “The links between electricity and gas markets are not going to go away anytime soon. Gas remains an important tool for balancing electricity markets in many regions today.”  "

Edited October 5, 2021 by Ecocharger

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3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

UK EV up 3 points since August!!

The UK auto market saw plugin electric vehicles take 21.65% share in September, up over 2x year-on-year. Full battery electrics outperformed, alone taking 15.2% share and a record 32,721 unit volume. Old-school diesel sales fell off a cliff, dropping to under 5% market share

 

So 80% of the NEW auto sales are still ICE fossil fuel vehicles, and 100% of the second hand market is ICE fossil fuels....that adds a ton of fossil fuel vehicles to the total vehicle stock.

Rolls Royce is continuing to roll.

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12 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

So 80% of the NEW auto sales are still ICE fossil fuel vehicles, and 100% of the second hand market is ICE fossil fuels....that adds a ton of fossil fuel vehicles to the total vehicle stock.

Rolls Royce is continuing to roll.

Luxury carmaker Rolls-Royce to switch to all electric range by 2030

The BMW-owned brand said in a statement that its first fully electric powered car, named 'Spectre', will be on the market in the fourth quarter of 2023, with testing to begin soon.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/luxury-carmaker-rolls-royce-switch-all-electric-range-by-2030-2021-09-29/

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14 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Luxury carmaker Rolls-Royce to switch to all electric range by 2030

The BMW-owned brand said in a statement that its first fully electric powered car, named 'Spectre', will be on the market in the fourth quarter of 2023, with testing to begin soon.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/luxury-carmaker-rolls-royce-switch-all-electric-range-by-2030-2021-09-29/

Yes, I heard that old story...we will see what happens, I expect that this whole nonsense will be a mere footnote in history by then.

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21 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

No one has suggested that your reference is related to the Texas disaster, show us where that came up. 

I assumed you were intelligent enough to pass the Armed Forces Mental Qualification Test and were not qualified as one of McNamara's Mental Midgets.

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5 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Yes, I heard that old story...we will see what happens, I expect that this whole nonsense will be a mere footnote in history by then.

Oh do tell, what year are EV sales going to start decreasing? 

Edited October 6, 2021 by Jay McKinsey

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5 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Oh do tell, what year are EV sales going to start decreasing? 

I'd guess at when they can make cheap nuclear fusion tokamaks small enough to fit into a car.

So a very very long way off if ever.

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6 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Oh do tell, what year are EV sales going to start decreasing? 

Looks like old Biden is showing his hand on his cheerleading show "EVs are the future and you will be so grateful you own one" mantra.  

Two months ago he called all of the electric car manufacturers of electric vehicles to meet to discuss future development, manufacturing plans, new technologies but then, -- uh oh, the invite must have been lost since Elon Musk was snubbed.  A little "in your face to the largest EV manufacturer who's autos will not receive any subsidies on car purchases since he's not a union shop.  

So, Elon seems to be a private enterprise, don't screw with me, kind of guy, so will he bend to Biden's will to be able to get the goodies?  So, we actually see the EV Biden fixation is not based on his relentless "clean energy" push, actually turns out to be another controlling government overreach to put power not with the EV manufacturers like Musk but the government.  

So might put a little speed bump on the "do tell, what year are EV ales going to start decreasing"?  Probably, pretty soon since the only successful EV manufacturer known to the public is Tesla.

 

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The Church of Warming/Climate is just a denomination of the main religion of Secular Socialism, whose deity is government. The religion has 3 other main denominations the Churches of Racism, Feminism, and Sexual Orientation, although the Branch Covidians have evangelized millions. All religions are manmade constructs that first enforce an individual's spiritualty and then usurp it for the power and enrichment of their leaders. The churches mentioned all have their equivalent of Joel Osteen. Warming-Al Gore, Racism-Al Sharpton, Feminism-Oprah, Sexual Orientation- Ellen DeGeneres. The Branch Covidians have many, but the Cardinal Fauci comes to mind.   

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On 10/5/2021 at 6:27 AM, turbguy said:

Then, there is this corroboration to deal with...

"Syukuro Manabe – awarded the 2021 Nobel Prize in Physics – demonstrated how increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere lead to increased temperatures at the surface of the Earth. His work laid the foundation for the development of current climate models".

 

Weather balloon data along with satellites for upper atmosphere have proven this blatantly false over 20 years ago... yet so called "scientists" keep peddling this disproved tripe to gullible fools.  Today's "science" is truly F'd...