specinho + 475 December 13 (edited) 8 hours ago, turbguy said: You need to get your hands on a copy of "Donald Duck and the Golden Helmet". A fantastic story, and terrific artwork! Carl Barks at his finest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Helmet "The helmet, an object of power, has the same effect on each of its successive owners: A cold glitter in their eyes betrays awakening greed and ambitions, as they become more ruthless, each of them in turn revealing the dreams of a would-be tyrant. Donald goes so far as to suggest charging for oxygen, with people wearing meters on their chests to keep track of how much they breathe". "A penny a breath, a nickle per sigh" (from the comic itself). It is high praise to say a comic book story has no throwaway panels, but this yarn illustrates that concept. Every picture tells a story. Quote analysis:" The "heroes" prove to be no better than the "villains" when the opportunity arises and the only solution seems to be the loss of the helmet." There is a similar saying for politicians:" Whoever is up there at the post(s) would behave the same. " Therefore, the rich resorted to select puppets, for the least, puppets are obedient lots. You pull relevant string(s), they move exactly according to instruction. The initial initiative might aim to make things easier to manage across the globe. Control the world is easy with educated puppets put in spelled of same crowd movement, is it not? Those backstage of anti-woke thought. They do not need outstanding persons, just a blend of crowd of the same imbecility and obedience. As mentioned, mankind are not equal, or the same, in capability, characteristics, integrity etc. Disparity creates much problems that can not be handled by initiators of a few. Problems skewed further from ideal standard quality to a point of self destruction... This is where we are today: - the initiators can not handle problems emerge unexpectedly - the puppets waiting for string(s) to be pulled to know what to say (not necessary do)... Therefore, the story is still standing true: - if helmet represents those anti-woke, time has arrived to get rid of the helmet to avoid being controlled by mysterious force... and appear obedient imbecile but not knowing. Edited December 13 by specinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 475 December 13 (edited) 7 hours ago, TailingsPond said: As I said I before I do not directly invest in Tesla. I do, however, observe the reality of their massive valuation. I have also explained more than once that production and sales of a tangible product like a car is not required to make money. Did you compare the top bank's valuations with Tesla? Did you look or just hang onto ignorance? How do you feel about peak Bitcoin? At some point you need to understand investor confidence is worth more than a product. I can only spoon feed you so much. How many physical products does Facebook sell? I was in the market few years back, making lots of practicing money within short time (probably inherited good genes from daddy in investing), crypto ( granted blessing), gold ( granted blessing), meeting with sabotaging act, money earned not retrievable. Also witnessed how they manipulated the chart and softwares against all positive guide, earning traits/ news, to make me lost money in winning trades. Owing to unique experience/ problems/ hurdles faced, would be able to inform you, the latest stock valuation is flawed. Tech stocks, largely manipulated. I do not know how the real calculation is done but let's take a look at this laymen stock discussion: 1. Dan started a small vendor stall selling fried chicken with initial capital $100k. - first year, Dan had a net profit of $50k. - judging at the Return over investment, Dan's daddy, mommy, uncle and aunty forked out money to help Danny enlarging the stall and hiring helpers. Total capital accummulated = $ 500k (including Dan's). - the second year, net profit multiplied. It's $300k. - after keeping aside money for operation and emergency, there is $100k to be divided up by 5 (Dan, Dan's daddy, mommy, uncle and aunt). 2. Dividend or no dividend - if $100k = 1 share and represented by $1, then: a) dividend given - each person receives $ 20k as dividend that year. Share remains $1. b) dividend not given - everyone agrees not to take the profit just yet until operation is steady or growing consistently. - the profit now is added onto the share price i.e. each share now worth $ 1.20. If anyone sells, will receive $ 120k. That's what understood generally. Based on that basic, looking back at particularly tech stocks, they have neither mode of operandi. The price increases and decreases at will. This trend is dangerous since it does not benefit shareholders who buy those worthless share with real, hard earned money. When owners of the share companies crash the price, their luxurious lives won't be affected. Only shareholders below their family and friends. To have a look at how badly trend like this is affecting used to be good lives of middle class households that turned impoverished, there is a movie would like to recommend: Cinderellaman, led by Russel Crowe. Confident or no confident, investors have no control if the price would be manipulated to crash. They will lose money the same way others will if they are not personal friends of the company owners... We are turned blind and not knowing... Why must hard working groups always suffer trying to earn a more comfortable income because of shrewd characters in action?? Is there no better idea to stimulate social progress than creating war, creating financial crisis, creating pandemic etc?? Edited December 13 by specinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,553 December 13 10 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Canadian air is clean, some guys years back started a company selling our clean air in cans. They make money doing it. Sad that some here do not value air quality - they will eventually value it when they are gasping their dying breath. https://vitalityair.com/products/twin-pack-banff-air-8l?variant=7076768514108 320 breaths of our air for $25 plus shipping. No smoke in Banff this year? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 13 (edited) 6 hours ago, turbguy said: No smoke in Banff this year? It was Jasper park that burned down this year. However, I see the clean air is out of stock on the website. Edited December 13 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 13 On 12/11/2024 at 4:38 PM, TailingsPond said: They do not need cash on hand. Their stocks can be used as assets for credit instruments. You really do not understand how money is created. Investor confidence is king, not action on some dealer parking lot. You have to answer how they grow in wealth so much. They do not need cash on hand. Their stocks can be used as assets for credit instruments???? dude you need to stop using drugs Tesla cannot use the stocks that are out in the public to borrow against. Period......stick to growing beets Investor confidence is king, not action on some dealer parking lot.????? at the end of the day if your beloved Tesla products have no buyers ....then Tesla has nothing and at the pace Elon is going....their base of potential buyers is disappearing fast. Or do you think Trump supporters are no going to be Tesla buyers???????? ha ha ha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 13 4 hours ago, TailingsPond said: It was Jasper park that burned down this year. However, I see the clean air is out of stock on the website. maybe shutting down the nasty Tar sands operations in Alberta will help clean up the air?????as tar sand operations are no better than burning coal and much worse than conventional oil production. Specifically Emissions Tar sands operations emit roughly 70 megatonnes (Mt) of GHGs per year, which is about 8.5% of Canada's total emissions. This is up to three times more global warming pollution than producing the same amount of conventional crude. Presonally I find most Canadians will turn a blind eye to what they are doing in Alberta as money is more important to them than the environment. Canada's tar sands, also known as oil sands, are a major source of air pollution and greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions: Emissions Tar sands operations emit roughly 70 megatonnes (Mt) of GHGs per year, which is about 8.5% of Canada's total emissions. This is up to three times more global warming pollution than producing the same amount of conventional crude. Air pollutants Tar sands operations emit high levels of air pollutants, including organic carbon, which can contribute to hazardous air pollution. Extraction methods In-situ extraction, which involves burning natural gas to melt bitumen from the sands, generates more than two and a half times more GHGs than open-pit mining. Other impacts Tar sands extraction also: Depletes and pollutes freshwater resources Creates toxic waste ponds Produces petroleum coke, a hazardous by-product, during refining In 2022, oil sands emissions held steady at 81 million metric tons of carbon dioxide, even as total production increased. This was attributed to industry-wide improvements in greenhouse gas intensity. However, Canada's climate policies are rated as “highly insufficient” by the Climate Action Tracker. The Trudeau government has pledged to cut emissions by at least 40-45% below 2005 levels by 2030, but is not on track to meet that goal. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, notsonice said: maybe shutting down the nasty Tar sands operations in Alberta will help clean up the air? I fully agree. I do not support fossil fuels if that has not been abundantly clear. The air pollution in this case was from a forest fire. You knew that but are upset so attack me for oil sands pollution when all I have been writing about is the success of green energy / EV industry. Look at the tread title, I am on-topic writing about Tesla's great success; you want to start a "oil pollution threatens the planet thread" go for it, I would be supportive. Edited December 13 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, notsonice said: Tesla cannot use the stocks that are out in the public to borrow against. Period You really do not understand finance. They can't leverage their own stock but they can get loans from banks if they wanted. Did you compare the top banks valuation with Tesla? Did you? Meanwhile Tesla grew another 2.4% already just today with a market cap of 1.34T. Where are all the billions coming from everyday smart guy? Can you even grow beets? https://companiesmarketcap.com/cad/usa/largest-companies-in-the-usa-by-market-cap/ Edited December 13 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 13 (edited) It must be painful for the failed economists to watch Tesla make billions daily. Like how more wrong can you be? Everyday they have to ignore market realities and double down on failed ideologies. Ford of course loses more money - no investor confidence. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=ford+stock A bumper sticker saying "I bought this before Elon went crazy" means the person bought a Tesla. Think before you post. Also people hate Elon for many other reasons besides EVs (twitter, Trump, etc.) Edited December 13 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM December 13 The Register Tesla sued over alleged Autopilot fail in yet another fatal accident Tesla is facing a lawsuit alleging its claims about Autopilot and Full Self Driving's (FSD) capabilities contributed to a fatal crash,... . 2 days ago MSN Is Tesla’s Autopilot Really Safe? Family Sues After Tragic Fatal Crash in California wonder if Donny can save Elon???????....when you have deep pockets you tend to have to pay out dearly........ Tesla faces a lawsuit over its Autopilot system's safety after a fatal accident, raising concerns about its driver assistance technology. . 7 hours ago TipRanks Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) Faces Lawsuit over Fatal Autopilot Crash Tesla ($TSLA) is facing a lawsuit from the family of Genesis Giovanni Mendoza-Martinez, a driver who tragically lost his life in a 2023... . 3 days ago Auto Spies Tesla Being Sued In Fatal Crash For Misrepresenting Autopilot Capabilities Tesla is being sued by the family of a driver who died in a 2023 collision, claiming that the company's “fraudulent misrepresentation” of... . 3 days ago Reuters Tesla sued by family of motorcyclist killed in Autopilot crash SAN FRANCISCO, Aug 1 (Reuters) - The parents of a motorcyclist who was killed in a 2022 crash involving a Tesla Model 3 on Autopilot in Utah... . Aug 1, 2024 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE December 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, notsonice said: The Register Tesla sued over alleged Autopilot fail in yet another fatal accident Tesla is facing a lawsuit alleging its claims about Autopilot and Full Self Driving's (FSD) capabilities contributed to a fatal crash,... . 2 days ago MSN Is Tesla’s Autopilot Really Safe? Family Sues After Tragic Fatal Crash in California wonder if Donny can save Elon???????....when you have deep pockets you tend to have to pay out dearly........ Tesla faces a lawsuit over its Autopilot system's safety after a fatal accident, raising concerns about its driver assistance technology. . 7 hours ago TipRanks Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) Faces Lawsuit over Fatal Autopilot Crash Tesla ($TSLA) is facing a lawsuit from the family of Genesis Giovanni Mendoza-Martinez, a driver who tragically lost his life in a 2023... . 3 days ago Auto Spies Tesla Being Sued In Fatal Crash For Misrepresenting Autopilot Capabilities Tesla is being sued by the family of a driver who died in a 2023 collision, claiming that the company's “fraudulent misrepresentation” of... . 3 days ago Reuters Tesla sued by family of motorcyclist killed in Autopilot crash SAN FRANCISCO, Aug 1 (Reuters) - The parents of a motorcyclist who was killed in a 2022 crash involving a Tesla Model 3 on Autopilot in Utah... . Aug 1, 2024 You can't use your own words and do not answer questions. Did you notice the rise to 1.37T valuation today? Did you compare that to the big banks or not? Paint a dark picture for Tesla all you want but explain to yourself the current reality of them raking in huge money. Do you know how trivial a couple lawsuits are to a company that has a 1.37T valuation and insurance? Try harder. Edited December 14 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 475 December 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, TailingsPond said: You can't use your own words and do not answer questions. Did you notice the rise to 1.37T valuation today? Did you compare that to the big banks or not? Paint a dark picture for Tesla all you want but explain to yourself the current reality of them raking in huge money. Do you know how trivial a couple lawsuits are to a company that has a 1.37T valuation and insurance? Try harder. I'm not sure if manipulation of stock prices would be sued, investigated or/ and punished. If yes, all owners of tech companies, investment websites, persons in charged to manipulate the prices etc will need to be really liquid to compensate shareholders and investors who would like to sell their shares or withdraw but can not. Or, they shall face consequential action to prevent waves of social melt down. Here, government and banks choose to sweep these issues under the carpet or deny responsibility. Typical trait on how problems are solved ...... The right thing to do should be investigate the end receiving accounts of all websites advertised, reported, found etc, name of accounts owner and take appropriate action. It might be better to let it cool down already... Using tesla stock to buy tweeter was a lucky exchange. Unless goldman sachs and centers for stock exchange are paying, those tech stocks and bitcoins could be the reasons recession and social melt down begin... Edited December 14 by specinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE Monday at 04:20 PM (edited) On 12/13/2024 at 10:06 PM, specinho said: I'm not sure if manipulation of stock prices would be sued, investigated or/ and punished Using tesla stock to buy tweeter was a lucky exchange. Tesla is a publicly traded company, yes internal manipulation (insider trading) would be punished. However, investors trading is not illegal. Profit is not illegal. Also do not confuse Elon Musk with Tesla, they are related but Musk also does a lot of non-Tesla things as well like the twitter stuff. Tesla rose another 3.8% already again today, valuation now at 1.4T. Billions each day. Maybe because owning the executive branch has it's privileges. Look those pesky crash regulations Tesla disliked are being removed. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-transition-recommends-scrapping-car-crash-reporting-requirement-opposed-by-2024-12-13/ Edited Monday at 04:27 PM by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE Monday at 04:26 PM On 12/13/2024 at 2:57 PM, notsonice said: The Register Tesla sued over alleged Autopilot fail in yet another fatal accident Tesla is facing a lawsuit alleging its claims about Autopilot and Full Self Driving's (FSD) capabilities contributed to a fatal crash,... . 2 days ago MSN Is Tesla’s Autopilot Really Safe? Family Sues After Tragic Fatal Crash in California wonder if Donny can save Elon???????....when you have deep pockets you tend to have to pay out dearly........ Tesla faces a lawsuit over its Autopilot system's safety after a fatal accident, raising concerns about its driver assistance technology. . 7 hours ago TipRanks Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) Faces Lawsuit over Fatal Autopilot Crash Tesla ($TSLA) is facing a lawsuit from the family of Genesis Giovanni Mendoza-Martinez, a driver who tragically lost his life in a 2023... . 3 days ago Auto Spies Tesla Being Sued In Fatal Crash For Misrepresenting Autopilot Capabilities Tesla is being sued by the family of a driver who died in a 2023 collision, claiming that the company's “fraudulent misrepresentation” of... . 3 days ago Reuters Tesla sued by family of motorcyclist killed in Autopilot crash SAN FRANCISCO, Aug 1 (Reuters) - The parents of a motorcyclist who was killed in a 2022 crash involving a Tesla Model 3 on Autopilot in Utah... . Aug 1, 2024 https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-transition-recommends-scrapping-car-crash-reporting-requirement-opposed-by-2024-12-13/ Too funny you mentioned that crap recently. Crash regulations being removed. Tesla up yet again to 1.4T. When you have more money than banks you can pay for a lot of lawyers and settle a few cases. Yes, more money than banks, did you look that up? I will hold your hand; JPMorgan Chase is the largest bank in the USA and Tesla dwarfs their mere 672.61B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE Monday at 04:37 PM (edited) On 12/13/2024 at 10:06 PM, specinho said: It might be better to let it cool down already. You need to understand Tesla is not controlling the price, the market is. The traders sell the shares between themselves and investors. Trader "A" buy some shares at $100/share, the price rises to $120/share so trader "A' decides to take a 20% profit and sell the shares to trader "B" for $120. The value of the share is what someone will buy it for, Tesla really doesn't have to have any part. Maybe think of it in childish terms, if you have rare baseball card and you sell it to your friend for $500 the baseball card manufacturer had nothing to do with that transaction or card valuation. Edited Monday at 04:37 PM by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE Monday at 05:30 PM 1 hour ago, TailingsPond said: Crash regulations being removed. Tesla up yet again to 1.4T. Update just one hour later valuation up to 1.44T Meanwhile fossil car company Ford down to 39.9B. Hmm did Tesla valuation increase by the entire value of the Ford company in one hour? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM Monday at 06:19 PM Carscoops US EV Sales Jump 5% As Legacy Brands Offset Tesla’s Losses Registrations reached over 101000 in October, and despite a decline, Tesla is still the undisputed market leader. . 2 days ago The Guardian Tesla sales in Australia are sliding for the first time. Is it stiff competition or the Musk factor? Sales of Elon Musk-owned carmaker have chalked up an annual drop of nearly 21%, as the overall EV sector growth weakens. . 1 week ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 475 Tuesday at 03:27 AM 10 hours ago, TailingsPond said: Tesla is a publicly traded company, yes internal manipulation (insider trading) would be punished. However, investors trading is not illegal. Profit is not illegal. Also do not confuse Elon Musk with Tesla, they are related but Musk also does a lot of non-Tesla things as well like the twitter stuff. Tesla rose another 3.8% already again today, valuation now at 1.4T. Billions each day. Maybe because owning the executive branch has it's privileges. Look those pesky crash regulations Tesla disliked are being removed. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-transition-recommends-scrapping-car-crash-reporting-requirement-opposed-by-2024-12-13/ It's only a recommendation. Tesla car crash testing report was horrible the last time "interesting engineering" showed it. Tested Tesla crashed like aluminum can, without the slightest resistant. Compared to the initial car test of old model of Tesla, before changing of material from steel to alloy aluminium or aluminium, the test on new model was terrifying. But most cars today crashed like that due to limitation of material. Someone showed a video where body of a new car was dented with 1 finger. That's why old model second hand cars might catch up with new sales soon for those who know. 2. Someone made a joke over Musk & the antiwoke indian. They will resort to seek help from AI to cut down trillion of budget for their virtual department of no staff. And the AI couldn't perform the task until they and data become real. - To me, judging from what they had done over the years, whatever Elon does, antiwoke might oppose it. Resorting to AI consultation might not be a bad idea. Hope Elon will know the right AI to consult to, not the rebellious AI built on purpose to show what it can do to self improve in avoiding shut down... - remember a suggestion made by someone years ago on using AI to replace stupid human government? The day might come sooner than later... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 475 Tuesday at 04:31 AM (edited) 12 hours ago, TailingsPond said: You need to understand Tesla is not controlling the price, the market is. The traders sell the shares between themselves and investors. Trader "A" buy some shares at $100/share, the price rises to $120/share so trader "A' decides to take a 20% profit and sell the shares to trader "B" for $120. The value of the share is what someone will buy it for, Tesla really doesn't have to have any part. Maybe think of it in childish terms, if you have rare baseball card and you sell it to your friend for $500 the baseball card manufacturer had nothing to do with that transaction or card valuation. Thank you for sharing. But i'm not sure if i agree completely... 1. If, the existing price per share is $10. Someone is selling under table at $100/ share to his relative who will buy. And the relative sells back at $ 200 not long after. That someone sells again to the same relative at $300. Relative sells back at $400..... But how much share could be involved to affect the market price as a whole? Otherwise, under table trades like these, might be fun to their boring lives, but would not have real profit unless they are selling the shares to others as scam? Or strangers are selling shares to them at $400/share. Would they buy? 2. If, i'm owner of the company, i might need to report it? a) share is not a demand-supply game. When company issues only 1000 shares, at $10/share, people requesting is 10,000, then the price would automatically be risen to $100 / share. Share, however, is a profit & loss game. The company makes profit, you get paid by sharing part of the profit as investors or shareholders. The company does not make money, you do not get paid but need to paid them to sustain the company. Your value of shares reduced. There is a bank, operated by brother of someone used to be high up, in a small country somewhere. This bank loses lots of money misjudging the market. The CEO decided to cheat money from customers, particularly of other races, to fill the holes, instead of asking for a bail out. Investors lose money in all segments of investment by having newbies on the job. Deduction was made every month. Shall one opt not to receive printed bank statement, one will miss to detect it. In addition, if an account is not active for several years, money inside would be consficated. No attempt to contact the account owners, no intention to contact next of kins, no intention to send memo. Nothing. Just pocket the money quietly. What is more outrageous, they have internal staff transfer money out from not so active accounts into private pockets. I wish to see all of those, their families and friends, live poor from now on... Edited Tuesday at 04:39 AM by specinho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE Tuesday at 07:20 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, specinho said: 1. If, the existing price per share is $10. Someone is selling under table at $100/ share to his relative who will buy. And the relative sells back at $ 200 not long after. That someone sells again to the same relative at $300. Relative sells back at $400..... But how much share could be involved to affect the market price as a whole? Otherwise, under table trades like these, might be fun to their boring lives, but would not have real profit unless they are selling the shares to others as scam? Or strangers are selling shares to them at $400/share. Would they buy? There is no "selling under the table trades" of publicly traded shares. First off it is illegal, secondly the traders would lose their cut of the transaction. In your example the guy who bought the $10 stock remained the owner the whole time. No official trade occurred so no effect on price. You are describing a scam but you do not need the stock market for that; just lie to people and don't buy any shares at all. Acting as a financial agent at for your relatives is also illegal unless you are a certified financial advisor. Questions like these show that you have never even tried to sign up for a equity trading account let alone have any trading experience. I encourage you to get some experience - go through the process of setting up an equity account and you will learn about what you can and cannot do. You don't even need to do any trades to learn. Edited Tuesday at 07:23 AM by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE Tuesday at 07:31 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, specinho said: There is a bank, operated by brother of someone used to be high up, in a small country somewhere. This bank loses lots of money misjudging the market. The CEO decided to cheat money from customers, particularly of other races, to fill the holes, [] I wish to see all of those, their families and friends, live poor from now on... Well maybe if you weren't too chicken to tell who did what and where maybe there could be punishment for their crimes for you to observe. What bank, what operator, what country? What a garbage story, don't make stories up, or if they are real but you are too afraid to tell them don't bring them up at all as some sort of evidence. "Somewhere in a small country there was a guy who owned a dragon. He was very cruel to the dragon." Notice how that story is stupid? Edited Tuesday at 07:32 AM by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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TailingsPond + 1,013 GE Tuesday at 03:29 PM (edited) Morning market update: Tesla up more to 1.51T in just a few hours. Billions invested every hour, man poor EV company with all that "collapse." LOL Meanwhile fossil car Ford continues to decline 35.6B. Where is the failed economist who bragged about Ford now? In other news oil continues to suffer from demand concerns. WTI drops more than 1.5% Edited Tuesday at 03:30 PM by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 714 yesterday at 03:40 AM On 12/13/2024 at 3:57 PM, notsonice said: The Register Tesla sued over alleged Autopilot fail in yet another fatal accident Tesla is facing a lawsuit alleging its claims about Autopilot and Full Self Driving's (FSD) capabilities contributed to a fatal crash,... . 2 days ago MSN Is Tesla’s Autopilot Really Safe? Family Sues After Tragic Fatal Crash in California wonder if Donny can save Elon???????....when you have deep pockets you tend to have to pay out dearly........ Tesla faces a lawsuit over its Autopilot system's safety after a fatal accident, raising concerns about its driver assistance technology. . 7 hours ago TipRanks Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) Faces Lawsuit over Fatal Autopilot Crash Tesla ($TSLA) is facing a lawsuit from the family of Genesis Giovanni Mendoza-Martinez, a driver who tragically lost his life in a 2023... . 3 days ago Auto Spies Tesla Being Sued In Fatal Crash For Misrepresenting Autopilot Capabilities Tesla is being sued by the family of a driver who died in a 2023 collision, claiming that the company's “fraudulent misrepresentation” of... . 3 days ago Reuters Tesla sued by family of motorcyclist killed in Autopilot crash SAN FRANCISCO, Aug 1 (Reuters) - The parents of a motorcyclist who was killed in a 2022 crash involving a Tesla Model 3 on Autopilot in Utah... . Aug 1, 2024 Not something appropriate to laugh at! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,013 GE 11 hours ago 22 hours ago, Ron Wagner said: Not something appropriate to laugh at! There are many, many fatal accidents caused by human drivers everyday. Not something to pretend is okay. We have been letting planes use autopilot for years. Computers do not fall asleep, get drunk or use medications / drugs, play on their phones, eat, argue, put on makeup, etc. while driving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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