turbguy + 1,405 March 18 So, Sleepy Joe is responsible, no? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM March 19 6 hours ago, turbguy said: So, Sleepy Joe is responsible, no? oh my he really is a Yankee Doodle Dandy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,405 March 20 (edited) And some more good info: https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/pXPUD/1/ Then consider that hydro, solar and wind derived power do not use a heat engine to turn BTU's into electric power. That means, for every watt generated by renewables, AT LEAST 2 watts of fossil fuels is being displaced for other uses. This statement assumes a heat engine operates at 50% thermal efficiency, which is REALLY optimistic, although achievable with modern materials and cycles when that modern generator is operated at rated base load. Thus, due to the effect of renewable sources, fossil fuels otherwise used to generate electricity, become available for sale on the world market. The petroleum industry and customers in the USA should be embracing renewables. The less we burn in the USA, the more is available to sell! With the rise of "AI", we are going to demand a LOT more electric power. Recently, it was found that "AI hardware" is consuming about as much as bitcoin mining. And, AI has only just begun. Edited March 20 by turbguy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin2 + 725 MK April 6 Actually US is the third largest oil producer after Russia and Saudi Arabia. Nobody with a sane mind includes condensate in crude oil production. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,135 April 8 On 4/6/2024 at 10:47 AM, Marcin2 said: Actually US is the third largest oil producer after Russia and Saudi Arabia. Nobody with a sane mind includes condensate in crude oil production. Just wondering... do you know how a refinery works... Judging by your comment you have NO CLUE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,135 April 8 (edited) PS: In case you can't figure it out(from memory over last ~decade) Saudi Arabia produced about ~1.5mb of lease condensates per year... Guess what? They use them. Sell them<<shock>> PPS: Saudi Arabia is building infrastructure for another ~2 million barrels of oil export which should once again put them in the lead as well as start building Natural Gas Liquid export terminals. Though how they think they can compete with say Qatar or the USA which is getting NG for ~free at the moment... Long term plans I guess. Edited April 8 by footeab@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,405 April 8 33 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: Though how they think they can compete with say Qatar or the USA which is getting NG for ~free at the moment... Long term plans I guess. I've heard that "NG is free" said here several times. I still have to pay a bill, that includes a charge for the quantity of Nat Gas actually metered/consumed. It's the largest charge on my bill. Can you please resolve my furrowed brow as to why I am being charged for the substance that you indicate is "free"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,135 April 8 38 minutes ago, turbguy said: I've heard that "NG is free" said here several times. I still have to pay a bill, that includes a charge for the quantity of Nat Gas actually metered/consumed. It's the largest charge on my bill. Can you please resolve my furrowed brow as to why I am being charged for the substance that you indicate is "free"? Not surprised your brow is furrowed, mental giants making great leaps is a bit difficult. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,405 April 9 On 4/8/2024 at 9:56 AM, footeab@yahoo.com said: Not surprised your brow is furrowed, mental giants making great leaps is a bit difficult. Yeah, that's a really GREAT response... Thanx... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 April 9 55 minutes ago, turbguy said: Yeah, that's a really GREAT response... Thanx... On 4/8/2024 at 8:17 AM, turbguy said: I've heard that "NG is free" said here several times. I still have to pay a bill, that includes a charge for the quantity of Nat Gas actually metered/consumed. It's the largest charge on my bill. Can you please resolve my furrowed brow as to why I am being charged for the substance that you indicate is "free"? Talk to Biden he cutoff Europe. Ohh well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM April 10 (edited) 13 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Talk to Biden he cutoff Europe. Ohh well babbling BS is all you have left....... Biden has cut off Europe??? more bs .....and You ????having problems dealing with April 15 Jury selection??? enjoy the trial Energy Intelligence EU's Record Gas Inventories to Weigh on Import Needs The strength of the recovery in European gas demand will determine imports requirements, but record storage levels will weigh on import... . 15 hours ago Financial Times Geopolitics lurks behind Europe's gas storage success Energy dependency turns out not to have been as effective a weapon as Putin thought. . 1 day ago ING Think Europe exits winter with record gas storage | articles | ING Think The northern hemisphere heating season has drawn to a close, and we think European gas prices are likely to remain under pressure. . 5 days ago Financial Times EU exits winter with gas storage at record levels Europe has ended the winter season with record levels of natural gas in storage, putting the region in a much better position to move on... . 1 week ago The Corner .eu EU ends the winter with record gas storage levels BancaMarch: The European Union ends the winter season with record levels of gas storage. Gas stocks in March recorded values of up to 58.72%... . 5 days ago Edited April 10 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,405 April 10 So, NG isn't "free". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 April 10 (edited) 6 hours ago, notsonice said: babbling BS is all you have left....... Biden has cut off Europe??? more bs .....and You ????having problems dealing with April 15 Jury selection??? enjoy the trial I know right... WHAT THEY ARE SAYING: Leaders Praise Biden-Harris Administration Pause on Pending Decisions of Liquefied Natural Gas Exports Biden reins in gas exports that have raised both US prestige and climate fears “We can’t keep building and building and building.” https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/27/what-they-are-saying-leaders-praise-biden-harris-administration-pause-on-pending-decisions-of-liquefied-natural-gas-exports/ https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/26/biden-gas-export-permits-pause-00138001 Edited April 10 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM April 10 2 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: I know right... WHAT THEY ARE SAYING: Leaders Praise Biden-Harris Administration Pause on Pending Decisions of Liquefied Natural Gas Exports https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/27/what-they-are-saying-leaders-praise-biden-harris-administration-pause-on-pending-decisions-of-liquefied-natural-gas-exports/ you do realize more LNG plants are not needed.....this said the allowance for more to be considered will be swapped in the next 2 weeks in congress for long term military aid to Israel and Ukraine. Enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 April 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, turbguy said: So, NG isn't "free". Interesting commentary perhaps a bit of historical commentary is in order.. Kremlin accuses Trump of trying to bully Europe into buying U.S. LNG By Andrew Osborn July 12, 20189:23 AM PDTUpdated 6 years ago The Kremlin yesterday (12 July) rejected US President Donald Trump’s description of Germany as a “captive” of Russia due to its energy reliance, saying his statement was part of a US campaign to bully Europe into buying American energy supplies. Trump told Germany at a NATO summit in Brussels on Wednesday that it was wrong to support an $11-billion Baltic Sea pipeline to import even more Russian gas while being slow to meet NATO targets for defence spending. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1K21A8/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/kremlin-accuses-trump-of-trying-to-bully-europe-into-buying-us-lng/ Edited April 10 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
footeab@yahoo.com + 2,135 April 10 2 hours ago, turbguy said: So, NG isn't "free". In TX it is ` $2.5. In Ohio it is... all the way up to JUST over ~$1. Pennsylvania all the way up to $1.5 If that isn't the definition of ~free I do not know what is. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM April 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: In TX it is ` $2.5. In Ohio it is... all the way up to JUST over ~$1. Pennsylvania all the way up to $1.5 If that isn't the definition of ~free I do not know what is. it is not the definition of free it is the definition of an over supplied market or one that is experiencing demand destruction or both you pick price of coal in the US falling hard right now in the end it means the cost of electricity is cheap..... Cheap gas ...cheap electricity Cheap Coal.... cheap electricity Cheap Solar Panels....Cheap electricity Free sun.....Cheap electricity Free wind......Cheap electricity The Electric Age is now going to dominate the energy source everyone relies on for daily home transportation and industrial needs... and solar with battery storage is over 50 percent of new electrical demand/power supply and is slowly taking over Now which one is free???? the Sun or Gas producers giving away Nat gas for free forever and losing their shirts?? the sun will keep shining for free nat gas...........well you do know that lasts for a few moments once in a while Rome was not built overnight and the takeover of the energy markets by electrification will occur over the next 30 years Edited April 10 by notsonice 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,405 April 10 59 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said: In TX it is ` $2.5. In Ohio it is... all the way up to JUST over ~$1. Pennsylvania all the way up to $1.5 If that isn't the definition of ~free I do not know what is. "~free" must mean something along the lines of "less expensive than" something else. It doesn't mean free. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 April 10 1 hour ago, turbguy said: "~free" must mean something along the lines of "less expensive than" something else. It doesn't mean free. Actually the actual words spoken by a American president. Rather profound. Your paying the Russians BILLIONS for gas...and you expect the US to defend you from Russia...Ya Don't Say https://youtu.be/9LLZBVTid4I?feature=shared 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,080 DM April 10 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Actually the actual words spoken by a American president. Rather profound. Your paying the Russians BILLIONS for gas...and you expect the US to defend you from Russia...Ya Don't Say https://youtu.be/9LLZBVTid4I?feature=shared US defending middle east it has been going on with oil for the past 80 years Anyone love kissing Saudi Butt?? the only one got 2 Billion US $ to play with...actions of a US president Edited April 10 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 476 GE April 10 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Actually the actual words spoken by a American president. Rather profound. https://youtu.be/9LLZBVTid4I?feature=shared Trump was literally laughed at by global leaders at those meetings. Nobody thought anything he said was profound. https://youtu.be/eN2jqTilLOM?t=11 https://youtu.be/FfJv9QYrlwg?t=20 Edited April 10 by TailingsPond 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 April 10 (edited) 37 minutes ago, notsonice said: US defending middle east it has been going on with oil for the past 80 years Anyone love kissing Saudi Butt?? the only one got 2 Billion US $ to play with...actions of a US president 36 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: Trump was literally laughed at by global leaders at those meetings. Nobody thought anything he said was profound. https://youtu.be/eN2jqTilLOM?t=11 https://youtu.be/FfJv9QYrlwg?t=20 I know RIGHT..... Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline President Donald Trump has signed a law that will impose sanctions on any firm that helps Russia's state-owned gas company, Gazprom, finish a pipeline into the European Union. The sanctions target firms building Nord Stream 2, an undersea pipeline that will allow Russia to increase gas exports to Germany. The US considers the project a security risk to Europe. Both Russia and the EU have strongly condemned the US sanctions. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50875935 Edited April 10 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,542 April 10 (edited) 48 minutes ago, notsonice said: US defending middle east it has been going on with oil for the past 80 years Anyone love kissing Saudi Butt?? the only one got 2 Billion US $ to play with...actions of a US president 47 minutes ago, TailingsPond said: Trump was literally laughed at by global leaders at those meetings. Nobody thought anything he said was profound. https://youtu.be/eN2jqTilLOM?t=11 https://youtu.be/FfJv9QYrlwg?t=20 Little side bar...I thought perhaps the US gene pool was stunted...the EU just stunned me... Europe’s anti-American itch Europeans have only themselves to blame for their industrial and strategic failings. Home Latest news EU election War in Ukraine Israel-Hamas war Farmers' protests Newsletters Podcasts Poll of Polls Policy news Events NEWS DEFENSE Europe’s anti-American itch Europeans have only themselves to blame for their industrial and strategic failings. LISTEN SHARE European officials are trying to blame the greedy Americans for the Continent’s current funk | Pool photo by Susan Walsh/AFP via Getty Images ANALYSIS NOVEMBER 30, 2022 6:13 AM CET BY MATTHEW KARNITSCHNIG BERLIN — It’s gotten cold in Europe, the economy is tanking and the natives are getting restless. There’s only one answer: Blame America. Pointing across the Atlantic has long been a favorite diversionary tactic for Europe’s political elites when things start to get dicey on the Continent. Whether it’s the war in Ukraine (Washington shouldn’t have expanded NATO), natural disasters (too many American SUVs fueling climate change) or the demise of French as a lingua franca (cultureless Hollywood), America is inevitably the culprit. https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-anti-american-biden-trade-gas-weapons-economy-inflation-reduction-act/ Edited April 10 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 476 GE April 10 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: I know RIGHT..... Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline President Donald Trump has signed a law that will impose sanctions on any firm that helps Russia's state-owned gas company, Gazprom, finish a pipeline into the European Union. The sanctions target firms building Nord Stream 2, an undersea pipeline that will allow Russia to increase gas exports to Germany. The US considers the project a security risk to Europe. Both Russia and the EU have strongly condemned the US sanctions. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50875935 How did that work out? FYI both Obama and Biden said Nord stream 2 was not a good idea. Edited April 10 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 476 GE April 10 Just now, Eyes Wide Open said: Europe’s anti-American itch It's not anti-American, it is anti-Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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