Mohammadabaft 0 MA October 5, 2019 Hi, what is the probability of a war between the United States and Iran? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 October 5, 2019 Zero! There is simply no reason for the US to engage in military hostilities with Iran. What is your opinion? 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 895 MP October 5, 2019 The US has been at war with Iran since 1979. The qualifier that should have been applied to the original question was whether the war is 'hot' - as in bombs, bullets, armies, etc. There have been no shortage of fatalities, and billions spent on both sides on various international intrigues. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 October 5, 2019 I guess we now even need a qualifier for war, which is why I used the term military hostilities. Probably another ‘caegorical error’ on my part. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 October 5, 2019 (edited) Low. Trump's not dumb. Nor is the Iranian government.  However, a war between Israel and Iran in the next 5 years is pretty likely.  Edited October 5, 2019 by Zhong Lu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 October 5, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zhong Lu said: Low. Trump's not dumb. Nor is the Iranian government.  However, a war between Israel and Iran in the next 5 years is pretty likely.  Probably so, but by default the US would be involved.  7 hours ago, Meredith Poor said: The US has been at war with Iran since 1979. The qualifier that should have been applied to the original question was whether the war is 'hot' - as in bombs, bullets, armies, etc. There have been no shortage of fatalities, and billions spent on both sides on various international intrigues. What a benign statement the word WAR is a noun- a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state. Hot War as apposed to a Cold War- Not Much difference Cold War Casualties by region: 158,000 Greek Civil War  3,000 Executed in East Germany  6,222–6,722 Hungarian Revolution  2,469,287–3,272,955 Korean War  2,500,000–6,000,000 1945–49 Chinese Civil War  200–300 Iranian Revolution  200,000 Guatemalan Civil War  100,000 Congo Crisis  5,000 Cuban Revolution  4,198 Bay of Pigs Invasion  2,825 Dominican Civil War  400,000–3,000,000 1965–66 Indonesian Genocide  966,000–3,812,000 Vietnam War  240,000–300,000 Cambodian Civil War  1,700,000–3,000,000 Cambodian genocide  20,000–62,000 Laotian Civil War  100,000 Hmong genocide  200,000 Degar genocide  200,000 Boat people  95,000 Reeducation Camps  65,425 Foreign Intervention In Indochina Wars  60,000–80,000 Operation Condor (3,000 Pinochet, 13,000 Vidella, et al.)  10,822–21,601 Yom Kippur War+14,119 Ogaden War  430,000–1,500,000 Menghistu Haile Mariam Crimes Against Humanity  500,000 Angolan Civil War  60,000–308,000 East Timor genocide  500,000–2,000,000 Soviet Afghan War.. Edited October 5, 2019 by James Regan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 October 5, 2019 Considering that Trump's been at war with the Democrats, it shouldn't be surprising that the Dems are at war with Trump.  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest October 5, 2019 (edited) we are back to the infamous shooty Edited October 5, 2019 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest October 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: I guess we now even need a qualifier for war, Yep still at war with NK if we go down that route... war not just shooty And I say 10% tops, and it would be over within a week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Zhong Lu said: Considering that Trump's been at war with the Democrats, it shouldn't be surprising that the Dems are at war with Trump.  This is a ‘which came first, the chicken or the egg’ situation... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyboardWarrior + 527 October 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: I guess we now even need a qualifier for war, which is why I used the term military hostilities. Probably another ‘caegorical error’ on my part. Probably time to let that go... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 October 6, 2019 7 hours ago, James Regan said: Probably so, but by default the US would be involved.  What a benign statement the word WAR is a noun- a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state. Hot War as apposed to a Cold War- Not Much difference Cold War Casualties by region: 158,000 Greek Civil War  3,000 Executed in East Germany  6,222–6,722 Hungarian Revolution  2,469,287–3,272,955 Korean War  2,500,000–6,000,000 1945–49 Chinese Civil War  200–300 Iranian Revolution  200,000 Guatemalan Civil War  100,000 Congo Crisis  5,000 Cuban Revolution  4,198 Bay of Pigs Invasion  2,825 Dominican Civil War  400,000–3,000,000 1965–66 Indonesian Genocide  966,000–3,812,000 Vietnam War  240,000–300,000 Cambodian Civil War  1,700,000–3,000,000 Cambodian genocide  20,000–62,000 Laotian Civil War  100,000 Hmong genocide  200,000 Degar genocide  200,000 Boat people  95,000 Reeducation Camps  65,425 Foreign Intervention In Indochina Wars  60,000–80,000 Operation Condor (3,000 Pinochet, 13,000 Vidella, et al.)  10,822–21,601 Yom Kippur War+14,119 Ogaden War  430,000–1,500,000 Menghistu Haile Mariam Crimes Against Humanity  500,000 Angolan Civil War  60,000–308,000 East Timor genocide  500,000–2,000,000 Soviet Afghan War.. Wars have always been the main timeline of history. they change cultural dominations and technology. They are started by leaders and the masses pay the greatest price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 October 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Zhong Lu said: Considering that Trump's been at war with the Democrats, it shouldn't be surprising that the Dems are at war with Trump.  You are about as wrong as anyone could be. The Demoncrats started attacking Trump when he was only one of dozens of Republican candidates trying to gain the nomination. They outwardly laughed and mocked but Obama and the entire establishment was arrayed against him. One man.  They attack the one man with their hate and their shower of weapons. But he is like some rock which stretches into the vast sea and which, exposed to the fury of the winds and beaten against by the waves, endures all the violence. Virgil 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 October 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: Probably time to let that go... True.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest October 6, 2019 I'm saying nothing ... la la la Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 October 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ronwagn said: You are about as wrong as anyone could be. The Demoncrats started attacking Trump when he was only one of dozens of Republican candidates trying to gain the nomination. They outwardly laughed and mocked but Obama and the entire establishment was arrayed against him. One man.   They attack the one man with their hate and their shower of weapons. But he is like some rock which stretches into the vast sea and which, exposed to the fury of the winds and beaten against by the waves, endures all the violence. Virgil  Presidents aren't saints. They're glorified government employees, to be evaluated based on their results. The idea that any president should be treated as a prophet or a saint is not only blasphemous from a Christian standpoint but openly anathema to democratic principles.  Edited October 6, 2019 by Zhong Lu 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 October 6, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 7:23 PM, Mohammadabaft said: Hi, what is the probability of a war between the United States and Iran? The probability is probably low ............ Somewhere else is probably getting more attention this week........... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 October 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Zhong Lu said:  Presidents aren't saints. They're glorified government employees, to be evaluated based on their results. The idea that any president should be treated as a prophet or a saint is not only blasphemous from a Christian standpoint but openly anathema to democratic principles.  I agree, just trying to provide some balance against the 90% of the establishment which denigrates him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 October 6, 2019 2 hours ago, ronwagn said: Fair enough.  1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,324 RG October 6, 2019 20 hours ago, ronwagn said: You are about as wrong as anyone could be. The Demoncrats started attacking Trump when he was only one of dozens of Republican candidates trying to gain the nomination. They outwardly laughed and mocked but Obama and the entire establishment was arrayed against him. One man.   They attack the one man with their hate and their shower of weapons. But he is like some rock which stretches into the vast sea and which, exposed to the fury of the winds and beaten against by the waves, endures all the violence. Virgil Trump has claimed to lead Israel and seems to be popular there. A trait to be noted if you believe in Anti Christ rhetoric. The Anti Christ will control the worlds economy. Another trait. Lol Trump has a higher support by evangelical Protestant by 25% and has historical high support for a German US politician. So why does Trump praise leaders like Putin, XI and Kin Jun Un while bringing a glock to a knife fight in fellow American cultural battles? Trump doesn’t hide his hate while most of us have been trained to. Trump is the type of man to declare himself more successful than Jesus. Just ask him. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest October 6, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Boat said: Just ask him. Lol He has a book or 2 out too. Just sayin' ... Edited October 6, 2019 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 October 7, 2019 11 hours ago, DayTrader said: la la la la la Zip your lip buddy!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhong Lu + 845 October 7, 2019 Ok. <sniffle> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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