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There is simply no reason for the US to engage in military hostilities with Iran.

What is your opinion?

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The US has been at war with Iran since 1979. The qualifier that should have been applied to the original question was whether the war is 'hot' - as in bombs, bullets, armies, etc. There have been no shortage of fatalities, and billions spent on both sides on various international intrigues.

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I guess we now even need a qualifier for war, which is why I used the term military hostilities. 
Probably another ‘caegorical error’ on my part.

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Low. Trump's not dumb. Nor is the Iranian government.  

However, a war between Israel and Iran in the next 5 years is pretty likely.  

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3 hours ago, Zhong Lu said:

Low. Trump's not dumb. Nor is the Iranian government.  

However, a war between Israel and Iran in the next 5 years is pretty likely.  

Probably so, but by default the US would be involved.

 

7 hours ago, Meredith Poor said:

The US has been at war with Iran since 1979. The qualifier that should have been applied to the original question was whether the war is 'hot' - as in bombs, bullets, armies, etc. There have been no shortage of fatalities, and billions spent on both sides on various international intrigues.

What a benign statement the word WAR is a noun- a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state. 

Hot War as apposed to a Cold War- Not Much difference

Cold War Casualties by region:

158,000 Greek Civil War
 3,000 Executed in East Germany
 6,222–6,722 Hungarian Revolution
 2,469,287–3,272,955 Korean War
 2,500,000–6,000,000 1945–49 Chinese Civil War
 200–300 Iranian Revolution
 200,000 Guatemalan Civil War
 100,000 Congo Crisis
 5,000 Cuban Revolution
 4,198 Bay of Pigs Invasion
 2,825 Dominican Civil War
 400,000–3,000,000 1965–66 Indonesian Genocide
 966,000–3,812,000 Vietnam War
 240,000–300,000 Cambodian Civil War
 1,700,000–3,000,000 Cambodian genocide
 20,000–62,000 Laotian Civil War
 100,000 Hmong genocide
 200,000 Degar genocide
 200,000 Boat people
 95,000 Reeducation Camps
 65,425 Foreign Intervention In Indochina Wars
 60,000–80,000 Operation Condor (3,000 Pinochet, 13,000 Vidella, et al.)
 10,822–21,601 Yom Kippur War+14,119 Ogaden War
 430,000–1,500,000 Menghistu Haile Mariam Crimes Against Humanity
 500,000 Angolan Civil War
 60,000–308,000 East Timor genocide
 500,000–2,000,000 Soviet Afghan War
..

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Considering that Trump's been at war with the Democrats, it shouldn't be surprising that the Dems are at war with Trump.  

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we are back to the infamous shooty

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9 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

I guess we now even need a qualifier for war,

Yep still at war with NK if we go down that route...  war not just shooty

And I say 10% tops, and it would be over within a week.

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3 hours ago, Zhong Lu said:

Considering that Trump's been at war with the Democrats, it shouldn't be surprising that the Dems are at war with Trump.  

This is a ‘which came first, the chicken or the egg’ situation...

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12 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

I guess we now even need a qualifier for war, which is why I used the term military hostilities. 
Probably another ‘caegorical error’ on my part.

Probably time to let that go... 

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7 hours ago, James Regan said:

Probably so, but by default the US would be involved.

 

What a benign statement the word WAR is a noun- a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state. 

Hot War as apposed to a Cold War- Not Much difference

Cold War Casualties by region:

158,000 Greek Civil War
 3,000 Executed in East Germany
 6,222–6,722 Hungarian Revolution
 2,469,287–3,272,955 Korean War
 2,500,000–6,000,000 1945–49 Chinese Civil War
 200–300 Iranian Revolution
 200,000 Guatemalan Civil War
 100,000 Congo Crisis
 5,000 Cuban Revolution
 4,198 Bay of Pigs Invasion
 2,825 Dominican Civil War
 400,000–3,000,000 1965–66 Indonesian Genocide
 966,000–3,812,000 Vietnam War
 240,000–300,000 Cambodian Civil War
 1,700,000–3,000,000 Cambodian genocide
 20,000–62,000 Laotian Civil War
 100,000 Hmong genocide
 200,000 Degar genocide
 200,000 Boat people
 95,000 Reeducation Camps
 65,425 Foreign Intervention In Indochina Wars
 60,000–80,000 Operation Condor (3,000 Pinochet, 13,000 Vidella, et al.)
 10,822–21,601 Yom Kippur War+14,119 Ogaden War
 430,000–1,500,000 Menghistu Haile Mariam Crimes Against Humanity
 500,000 Angolan Civil War
 60,000–308,000 East Timor genocide
 500,000–2,000,000 Soviet Afghan War
..

Wars have always been the main timeline of history. they change cultural dominations and technology. They are started by leaders and the masses pay the greatest price.

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6 hours ago, Zhong Lu said:

Considering that Trump's been at war with the Democrats, it shouldn't be surprising that the Dems are at war with Trump.  

You are about as wrong as anyone could be. The Demoncrats started attacking Trump when he was only one of dozens of Republican candidates trying to gain the nomination. They outwardly laughed and mocked but Obama and the entire establishment was arrayed against him. One man. 

 

They attack the one man with their hate and their shower of weapons. But he is like some rock which stretches into the vast sea and which, exposed to the fury of the winds and beaten against by the waves, endures all the violence.

Virgil

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31 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

Probably time to let that go... 

True....

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I'm saying nothing ... la la la 

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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

You are about as wrong as anyone could be. The Demoncrats started attacking Trump when he was only one of dozens of Republican candidates trying to gain the nomination. They outwardly laughed and mocked but Obama and the entire establishment was arrayed against him. One man. 

 

 

They attack the one man with their hate and their shower of weapons. But he is like some rock which stretches into the vast sea and which, exposed to the fury of the winds and beaten against by the waves, endures all the violence.

Virgil

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Presidents aren't saints.  They're glorified government employees, to be evaluated based on their results.  The idea that any president should be treated as a prophet or a saint is not only blasphemous from a Christian standpoint but openly anathema to democratic principles.  

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la la la la la 

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On 10/5/2019 at 7:23 PM, Mohammadabaft said:

Hi, what is the probability of a war between the United States and Iran?

The probability is probably low ............ Somewhere else is probably getting more attention this week...........

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16 hours ago, Zhong Lu said:

 

Presidents aren't saints.  They're glorified government employees, to be evaluated based on their results.  The idea that any president should be treated as a prophet or a saint is not only blasphemous from a Christian standpoint but openly anathema to democratic principles.   

I agree, just trying to provide some balance against the 90% of the establishment which denigrates him. 

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2 hours ago, ronwagn said:

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Fair enough.  

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20 hours ago, ronwagn said:

You are about as wrong as anyone could be. The Demoncrats started attacking Trump when he was only one of dozens of Republican candidates trying to gain the nomination. They outwardly laughed and mocked but Obama and the entire establishment was arrayed against him. One man. 

 

 

They attack the one man with their hate and their shower of weapons. But he is like some rock which stretches into the vast sea and which, exposed to the fury of the winds and beaten against by the waves, endures all the violence.

Virgil

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Trump has claimed to lead Israel and seems to be popular there. A trait to be noted if you believe in Anti Christ rhetoric. The Anti Christ will control the worlds economy. Another trait. Lol Trump has a higher support by evangelical Protestant by 25% and has historical high support for a German US politician. So why does Trump praise leaders like Putin, XI and Kin Jun Un while bringing a glock to a knife fight in fellow American cultural battles? Trump doesn’t hide his hate while most of us have been trained to. 
Trump is the type of man to declare himself more successful than Jesus. Just ask him. Lol

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10 minutes ago, Boat said:

Just ask him. Lol

He has a book or 2 out too.

Just sayin' ...

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11 hours ago, DayTrader said:

la la la la la 

Zip your lip buddy!!!!

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Ok.  <sniffle>

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