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You really do indulge in counterfactuals, showing an enormous lack of knowledge. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas-oct-china-made-ev-sales-fall-53-yy-2024-11-04/ "U.S. automaker Tesla (TSLA.O), sold 68,280 China-made electric vehicles in October, down 5.3% from a year earlier, data from the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) showed on Monday. Deliveries of China-made Model 3 and Model Y vehicles fell 22.7% from the previous month."

Trust me, they are still making money even at 68. Even if it drops to 60 a bbl they are making money. You're factoring the "greed" and emotion of a Tesla. It's not worth a trillion plus, and if oil drops much lower, they won't be selling half what they are now. You think 50% of the USA car buying segment will buy a Tesla or any EV when gas will be at 2.25 a gallon? Electricity is still more expensive per mile than a 38k ICE vehicle that gets 30 mpg plus. Your a moron with an attitude that everyone WANTS an Electric car. The whole country as whole is still 98% ICE on new vehicles. Lithium mines are closing down even at 350 a ton, that should be tell. Keep dreaming and like I told you the other day, you're a hypocrite as you have the means to buy an EV but you haven't.

They talk up new products which never arrive on the market. Some people still listen to that. "Musk set sky-high expectations for the "We Robot" event. But after showing off a Cybercab and Robovan late on Oct. 10, the market seemed unimpressed with Musk as he once more claimed full autonomous driving will come "next year" but did not offer any details or updates of an "affordable" EV." Perhaps Musk would like a smooth regulatory approval for self-drive? We shall see.

If folks want to invest in Tesla, which seems the case, let them. I can tell you that by selling less units month after month, it'll crash. There is no way Tesla is worth a trillion, and will self adjust in the coming months. If you can't understand that, then there is no one person on this forum that can help you to understand the economics of business.

If investors want to put thier money in Tesla or Exxon or whatever, there is a downside risk too. It will catch up in short order if units are not selling like Jeep Wranglers. Mass produced and many sitting on lots unsold at 10% inflated price over last year. The dealers are the ones that will end up suffering, then the trickle down . Tho you could buy one to help save Elon. LOL Exxon is not drilling as much and letting share holders get some bux back. Your economics is screwed up.

I agree, it's not renewable. But to be able to compete with those that continue to build base-load fossil facilities, it's gonna be very handy to have for a few decades. At least it's operating emissions are much less bothersome than fossil fueled plants.

They are suffering because earnings are down, product sales are down. Just like the EV sector in general.

It does not work for Tesla. Earnings are down, product sales are down. Just like the EV sector in general.

They made billions. You refuse to address all the money they are making! Do banks need to sell cars to get rich? Making money has a lot less to do with selling products than you think. 5% less sales? Wow, nobody cares about that when you are making loads of money!!! +86% in last 6 months, unreal gains. Very happy investors. You guys should work selling used cars not predicting the economy at a financial institution or large corporation. %5 less sales matters to the guy on the car lot, not to the big boys with billions of bucks. Once you have a lot of money you don't actually have to do anything to stay rich. Money works for you.

Explain the massive increase in share price. They have made billions in the last month. Many, many billions. If that is suffering give me some! +50% in last month, + 86% last 6 months, market cap of 1.05 trillion. Who gives a crap about selling cars when you are making so much cash off investor confidence? Money is money and they are not suffering. Have you never heard of venture capitalism? You don't actually have to make a product or run a profit, you only need to convince people that in the long-term the company will be successful. The data is clear, the investors have dollar voted for Tesla. People are still buying into them even after the big price jump. If you had had the wisdom to buy into Tesla 6 months ago you could be happily selling a portion of your shares as profit taking. +86% in 6 months is one damn fine investment! You of course didn't do that because you are likely broke with your "down is good (oil) up is bad (Tesla)" economic theories. You're making yourself into more of a clown, just saying.

Just to be clear you think this Irina Slav writer for oilprice.com can provide a better economic analysis than yourself? Obviously she is a better writer than you, but is she really an economist? I wonder how much a writer for oilprice gets paid. I'm guessing significantly less than a successful economist. I also have good reason to believe you are not employed as an economist, so maybe stop with that shtick.

People should not call themselves economists when they can not comment on the economy for themselves. The changes in WTI price and Tesla share price are real numbers that could be addressed, but are not. Capitulation is a loss, inability to use own words is a failure.

Address the massive Tesla increase using your own words. Simple. Anything less is just a bot regurgitating biased internet garbage. The numbers I posted are real numbers in real time. Not opinion, not forecasts, real numbers. You can address the realty of Tesla massive price increase or deny reality and post some other opinion blog because you can't write for yourself.

Once again not your words. Address the massive Tesla growth.

You really are out of touch with reality. Read and learn, non-economist, https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Drill-Baby-Drill-Hits-Wall-of-Capital-Restraint.html "Despite the rhetoric and policy platforms, the U.S. tight oil sector “is expected to continue its steady growth, driven more by market forces and company strategy than by government policy,” Matthew Bernstein, Senior Analyst, Upstream Research at Rystad Energy, wrote in an analysis ahead of the U.S. election. The U.S. industry’s new priorities of returning more cash to shareholders suggest that “even if prices rise, companies are unlikely to significantly increase spending, as production has somewhat decoupled from oil and gas prices,” Bernstein said. “As a result, the traditional link between high prices and increased drilling activity has been weakened, with companies instead focusing on maintaining capital discipline and maximizing returns.”"